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To be horrified that Israel is slaughtering children at a rate not seen in over 20 years? (thread 2)

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ThisNattyTurtle · 30/03/2025 09:07

Israel has been found to be committing genocide in Gaza by legal teams from the UN, Amnesty and Human Rights Watch. Israel has deliberately attacked MSF ambulances and clinics and the World Central Kitchen killing overseas volunteers including a British army vet.
See Amnesty video explaining below

Jewish-American Dr. Mark Perlmutter on what he saw in Gaza and why he believes it's deliberate genocide (warning - heart breaking)
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ia9sa0iuwHw

On average one child is being killed every 45minutes. Over 100 were killed 18th and 19th March alone. There has been a total blockade preventing entry of food or medicine since the start of March.

Israel is an apartheid state according to the ICJ, UN, B'Tselem, Yesh Din, Amnesty, Human Rights Watch.

The British government is supporting Israel in this genocide with military recon flights and arms. Our government did not stop supporting White Apartheid South Africa until it was forced to by British people's outrage, and by the global boycott. It is time to do the same again to show that we do not accept genocide and that we really do stand by the values of international humanitarian law.

Dr Mark Perlmutter describes finding ‘distinct signs of genocide’ in Gaza

“Genocide was the overwhelming impression that I got.”Orthopaedics surgeon Dr Mark Perlmutter described to Democracy Now on Thursday that he found “distinct ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=116s&v=2QdalGDpCIU

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Thegreyhound · 22/05/2025 16:18

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devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 16:09

Thegreyhound · 22/05/2025 16:02

The racism in this situation is appalling. Two white western lives have been tragically and wrongly taken and the photos of them and their personal stories are everywhere. The lives of Palestinians are meaningless in comparison. We don’t see their photos, we don’t know their names or their stories. It’s an appalling double standard

I agree, the racism of someone opening fire on innocent people outside the Jewish museum is appealing. As are any attempts to minimise it.

Thegreyhound · 22/05/2025 16:02

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 22/05/2025 14:33

At least 52 people died in Gaza today as a result of bombing, and more have died of hunger and disease. Sad as the shooting is, it's really quite revealing that some people want to focus on that instead of the vastly greater suffering and death of Palestinians.

The racism in this situation is appalling. Two white western lives have been tragically and wrongly taken and the photos of them and their personal stories are everywhere. The lives of Palestinians are meaningless in comparison. We don’t see their photos, we don’t know their names or their stories. It’s an appalling double standard

Thegreyhound · 22/05/2025 16:00

devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 14:13

Maybe if the cunt wanted to help people getting aid into Gaza he shouldn't have shot people attending a meeting on how to get aid into Gaza.

If we’re in the business of calling people cunts then maybe the cunts currently running Israel shouldn’t have been committing war crimes for more than a year?

devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 14:47

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 22/05/2025 14:43

Interesting language there - it’s pretty much the same word that I would use to describe anyone who bombs or defends the bombing of kids but I am not into dropping c bombs or any other bombs really!

Good for you.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 22/05/2025 14:43

devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 14:13

Maybe if the cunt wanted to help people getting aid into Gaza he shouldn't have shot people attending a meeting on how to get aid into Gaza.

Interesting language there - it’s pretty much the same word that I would use to describe anyone who bombs or defends the bombing of kids but I am not into dropping c bombs or any other bombs really!

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 22/05/2025 14:33

At least 52 people died in Gaza today as a result of bombing, and more have died of hunger and disease. Sad as the shooting is, it's really quite revealing that some people want to focus on that instead of the vastly greater suffering and death of Palestinians.

devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 14:13

Maybe if the cunt wanted to help people getting aid into Gaza he shouldn't have shot people attending a meeting on how to get aid into Gaza.

BelleHathor · 22/05/2025 13:57

The press has obtained the "manifesto" of the alleged (becausr there were witnesses last night who said the shooter fled the scene on a bike) perpetrator of the murder of the Israeli Embassy staff members.

The person arrested (a Mexican American) says that they were motivated by the atrocities committed by the Israeli Government and IDF and the inaction of the International community to intervene.

Tragic nonetheless.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/the-israel-embassy-shooter-manifesto

The Israel Embassy Shooter Manifesto

900-word document cites Gaza as motive

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/the-israel-embassy-shooter-manifesto

devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 13:46

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 22/05/2025 13:11

It was all over the news headlines in the UK!

Okay and? That proves the motivation couldn't possibly have been antisemitic how?

moose17 · 22/05/2025 13:43

Since the very first war that took place estimated to have happened some time in 2.700 B.C how many more wars over how many continents have happened since! If history has taught us anything it is that only the truly innocent suffer the most. hundreds and hundreds of years later
mankind still haven’t learnt.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 22/05/2025 13:11

devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 12:22

How do you know this? They were killed outside the Jewish museum.

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It was all over the news headlines in the UK!

devourfeculence · 22/05/2025 12:22

Thegreyhound · 22/05/2025 11:53

Targeted for working at the Israeli embassy, not because of being Jewish. Correlation, not causation.

How do you know this? They were killed outside the Jewish museum.

Thegreyhound · 22/05/2025 11:53

HellsBalls · 22/05/2025 07:03

And another terrorist attack today at a Jewish museum by a Palestinian supporter.
Jews murdered for the sole reason they are Jewish.
When do you ever hear of lone Jewish terrorists?

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Targeted for working at the Israeli embassy, not because of being Jewish. Correlation, not causation.

quantumbutterfly · 22/05/2025 11:31

ThisNattyTurtle · 22/05/2025 11:12

You mean, like Yigal Amir who assassinated Israeli PM Yitzak Rabin because he made a semi-just offer of peace to the Palestinians?
Or Baruk Goldstein (a DOCTOR) who walked into a mosque and slaughtered in Ramadan and slaughtered 29 Muslims as they kneeled in prayer?
Or Ariel Sharon, who the UN found directly responsible for the Sabra and Shatila massacres? (AFTER that, he was democratically elected PM of Israel).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

Your potted history needs fleshing out.

Sabra and Shatila massacre - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

ThisNattyTurtle · 22/05/2025 11:29

HellsBalls · 22/05/2025 07:03

And another terrorist attack today at a Jewish museum by a Palestinian supporter.
Jews murdered for the sole reason they are Jewish.
When do you ever hear of lone Jewish terrorists?

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Of course those with a longer memory will fondly recall Israel's 6th PM Menachem Begin.
As leader of the Irgun, he kidnapped and hanged three British soldiers, booby-trapping their bodies so the rescuing soldiers were also wounded (the Sergeants' Affair).
And he bombed the King David hotel killing 90 British off-duty personnel and civilians.

When Churchill called an emergency meeting to address "terrorism in Palestine" he was talking about Jewish extremists the Irgun and Haganah, who founded modern terrorist techniques in the Middle East and who openly used human shields (Google, "On Human Shields", Prof.Neve Gordon)

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ThisNattyTurtle · 22/05/2025 11:24

Here are the fucking psychos in action, jeering at photos of the 18 month old they burned alive in his bed, at a freaking wedding celebration.

Source: Ha'aretz, an Israeli newspaper

But you are right, we never hear about Jewish extremists and terrorism. Not because it's not happening but because it doesn't suit the narrative. Worth mentioning, the current editor of the BBC's middle East section is a former Israeli soldier. Funny that.

Jewish Radicals Celebrating Wedding by Stabbing Photo of Dawabsheh Baby Credit: Channel 10

Video Shows Jewish Radicals Celebrating Wedding by Stabbing Photo of Dawabsheh Baby - Credit Channel 10 For the Full article at Haaretz.com: http://www.haare...

https://youtu.be/dfkd0r1yY10?si=Mu7nXnFqQAMMusfI

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ThisNattyTurtle · 22/05/2025 11:21

Or the insane religious extremist Israelis who burned this toddler and his father alive (BEFORE OCT 7th) as they slept in their beds then daubed the star of David at the scene of the attack.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/08/saad-dawabsheh-dies-father-palestinian-toddler-killed-west-bank-arson-attack-dies

When little Ali's grandfather attended the court hearing against the attackers, Israeli settlers outside chanted "where's Ali?? Ali's on the barbeque". The live video's on YouTube.

Only one settler went to jail for that. At Israeli settler weddings, they hold up photos of the toddler and slap it with shoes. I mean seriously psychotic behavio
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Father of Palestinian toddler killed in West Bank arson attack dies

Saad Dawabsheh was being treated for third-degree burns sustained in attack blamed on Jewish extremists

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/08/saad-dawabsheh-dies-father-palestinian-toddler-killed-west-bank-arson-attack-dies

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ThisNattyTurtle · 22/05/2025 11:15

HellsBalls · 22/05/2025 07:03

And another terrorist attack today at a Jewish museum by a Palestinian supporter.
Jews murdered for the sole reason they are Jewish.
When do you ever hear of lone Jewish terrorists?

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2

Or this Israeli captain who shot a 13 yr old schoolgirl at close range, then walked up to her as she lay on the floor wounded and emptied his rifle into her at point blank range. His own soldiers testified she was obviously not a threat but he was acquitted.
He's a terrorist, and so are the entire judiciary that acquitted him.

Not guilty. The Israeli captain who emptied his rifle into a Palestinian schoolgirl

· Officer ignored warnings that teenager was terrified· Defence says 'confirming the kill' standard practice.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2

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ThisNattyTurtle · 22/05/2025 11:12

HellsBalls · 22/05/2025 07:03

And another terrorist attack today at a Jewish museum by a Palestinian supporter.
Jews murdered for the sole reason they are Jewish.
When do you ever hear of lone Jewish terrorists?

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You mean, like Yigal Amir who assassinated Israeli PM Yitzak Rabin because he made a semi-just offer of peace to the Palestinians?
Or Baruk Goldstein (a DOCTOR) who walked into a mosque and slaughtered in Ramadan and slaughtered 29 Muslims as they kneeled in prayer?
Or Ariel Sharon, who the UN found directly responsible for the Sabra and Shatila massacres? (AFTER that, he was democratically elected PM of Israel).

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Letmecallyouback · 22/05/2025 10:33

HellsBalls · 22/05/2025 07:03

And another terrorist attack today at a Jewish museum by a Palestinian supporter.
Jews murdered for the sole reason they are Jewish.
When do you ever hear of lone Jewish terrorists?

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When do you hear of lone Jewish terrorists? Have you visited the occupied West Bank lately?

Letmecallyouback · 22/05/2025 10:29

Thegreyhound · 21/05/2025 22:11

Easy: the UK should stop supplying arms and other military support to Israel.
on a personal level you can write to your MP
you can use the boycat app
you can donate to MAP
you can join a protest

And still it won’t stop what Israel are doing 😢

Letmecallyouback · 22/05/2025 10:21

Tinyrabbit · 21/05/2025 17:37

For all the Hamas supporters here, who pretend to be horrified by terrorism but didn't post a single thing after 7/10 but are very happy to spread lies:
https://israelfaqs.com/ and https://www.cija.ca/tags/myths_and_facts.

Do you mean lies like babies being beheaded and put in ovens? Oh hang on a minute…that was Israel who said that on Oct 7th while they took hours to even turn up wasn’t it?

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 22/05/2025 10:17

HellsBalls · 22/05/2025 07:03

And another terrorist attack today at a Jewish museum by a Palestinian supporter.
Jews murdered for the sole reason they are Jewish.
When do you ever hear of lone Jewish terrorists?

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It is awful that couple were murdered, truly horrible. However, I don’t think you can blame the starving Palestinians on a different continent for the actions of a man in American just as we cannot blame Israel for the actions of Joseph Czuba who murdered a 6 year old Palestinian American child. Murder is wrong but bringing in the actions of a lone nutter in America does not strengthen your arguments on why Israel’s genocide is just.

There have been countless jewish terrorists, there have been countless muslim terrorists, christian terrorists, Irish, British, American, Israeli etc… No religion or ethnicity is inherently good or bad, you get good people and bad people in every country. Saying jewish people are never terrorists is just ridiculous (also makes me think you need to read more widely) - you are not better than me because of your religion, muslim people are not more likely to be terrorists because of their religion. The word terrorism itself is used as a weapon - Israel murder around 20,000 kids and that is “war” but if a member of the IDF is shot that is terrorism. When settlers kill people going about their day in the West Bank is that terrorism or what would you class it?

IsoscelesSandwich · 22/05/2025 07:25

HellsBalls · 21/05/2025 22:36

It’s not 50,000 civilians though. Half of them are terrorists.
Historically the civilian to military death rates in a war are 10 to 1.
The war in Gaza is 1 to 1. Still terrible. Not a genocide.
Israel is doing everything it can to destroy Hamas with minimal civilian casualties. Hamas don’t wear uniforms, they hide in and under hospitals, in amongst civilians. They use normal Palestinians as human shields. If they cared for their people, they would have released the prisoners, secured the aid convoys, negotiated a cease fire. But no, they perpetuate their people’s suffering. Absolute scum of the earth.
Israel needs to let the aid convoys in under protection of an independent force backed by America, and continue the war against Hamas.

When enough time has passed that the propaganda has worn off, I hope you’re able to find peace with how you supported the murder of so many people. History shows us that when population-scale atrocities have happened those that supported the killing did so because of misinformation and fear. I hope there is healing in your future.