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To be horrified that Israel is slaughtering children at a rate not seen in over 20 years? (thread 2)

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ThisNattyTurtle · 30/03/2025 09:07

Israel has been found to be committing genocide in Gaza by legal teams from the UN, Amnesty and Human Rights Watch. Israel has deliberately attacked MSF ambulances and clinics and the World Central Kitchen killing overseas volunteers including a British army vet.
See Amnesty video explaining below

Jewish-American Dr. Mark Perlmutter on what he saw in Gaza and why he believes it's deliberate genocide (warning - heart breaking)
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ia9sa0iuwHw

On average one child is being killed every 45minutes. Over 100 were killed 18th and 19th March alone. There has been a total blockade preventing entry of food or medicine since the start of March.

Israel is an apartheid state according to the ICJ, UN, B'Tselem, Yesh Din, Amnesty, Human Rights Watch.

The British government is supporting Israel in this genocide with military recon flights and arms. Our government did not stop supporting White Apartheid South Africa until it was forced to by British people's outrage, and by the global boycott. It is time to do the same again to show that we do not accept genocide and that we really do stand by the values of international humanitarian law.

Dr Mark Perlmutter describes finding ‘distinct signs of genocide’ in Gaza

“Genocide was the overwhelming impression that I got.”Orthopaedics surgeon Dr Mark Perlmutter described to Democracy Now on Thursday that he found “distinct ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=116s&v=2QdalGDpCIU

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devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 21:40

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Are you even capable of saying anything that isn't a childish personal attacks?

Thegreyhound · 23/05/2025 21:30

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devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 20:10

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 23/05/2025 20:03

Honestly you seem to be having issues reading people’s posts and seem to be deliberately misreading things in order to move the conversation away from the topic. We were talking about proof and I was saying you have as much proof that man’s motivations were anti semitic as I have that your motivations on this thread are Islamophobic. No one called you anything - it was about the absurd way you are trying to twist the conversation into a conversation about anti semitism when it is about the genocide of children.

I was demonstrating the dangers of declaring things without evidence. No I do not have evidence just as you have no evidence the man is driven by anti semitism. You are misreading people’s comments in order to disrupt the conversation. You have not contributed or engaged in the discussion that this thread is about but instead are posting over and over trying to disrupt the discussion. Some would call that trolling and say it is pointless to engage with such a person.

You flat out said you think I'm motivated by hatred of Muslims, all because I said I think a murder may have been motivated by antisemitism. And clearly I'm not the only one having trouble reading posts since I never claimed to have proof.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 23/05/2025 20:03

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 19:20

I'll answer your question if you answer mine. What do you have to back up your rather vile accusations against me?

Honestly you seem to be having issues reading people’s posts and seem to be deliberately misreading things in order to move the conversation away from the topic. We were talking about proof and I was saying you have as much proof that man’s motivations were anti semitic as I have that your motivations on this thread are Islamophobic. No one called you anything - it was about the absurd way you are trying to twist the conversation into a conversation about anti semitism when it is about the genocide of children.

I was demonstrating the dangers of declaring things without evidence. No I do not have evidence just as you have no evidence the man is driven by anti semitism. You are misreading people’s comments in order to disrupt the conversation. You have not contributed or engaged in the discussion that this thread is about but instead are posting over and over trying to disrupt the discussion. Some would call that trolling and say it is pointless to engage with such a person.

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 19:20

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 23/05/2025 19:11

It is a shame you didn’t read my post properly. You seem to be trying to sidetrack the thread away from its main purpose. How do you feel about the babies murdered at the hands of the Israeli aggressors.

I'll answer your question if you answer mine. What do you have to back up your rather vile accusations against me?

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 23/05/2025 19:11

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:01

What exactly have I said that was Islamaphobic? That's a serious accusation.

It is a shame you didn’t read my post properly. You seem to be trying to sidetrack the thread away from its main purpose. How do you feel about the babies murdered at the hands of the Israeli aggressors.

MusedeBordeaux · 23/05/2025 19:11

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:45

I'm simply wondering what karma the poster wants visited on people. I dont expect an answer, anymore than I wxpect to get one about what I've said that's Islamophobic or who brainwashed me to hate Palestinians.

I think that those of us who are horrified by what Israel is doing, alongside what the settlers have inflicted on generations of Palestinians, do not have well wishes.

I won't use the word Karma, but I do think all the good will towards Israel is lost. Rightly so, given their slaughter of a population who couldn't ever defend themselves against the masters USA.

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:45

ExitChasedByAPolarBear · 23/05/2025 18:21

@devourfeculence What on earth are you trying to say? I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove.

I'm simply wondering what karma the poster wants visited on people. I dont expect an answer, anymore than I wxpect to get one about what I've said that's Islamophobic or who brainwashed me to hate Palestinians.

MusedeBordeaux · 23/05/2025 18:28

I am forever changed by this genocide.

Nothing will change the fact that I have seen dead babies, burnt, limbless, and left to rot... Children, so traumatised I had to look away. Children, left orphaned, subject to more bombing, children who mostly won't survive - given Israel's intent.

We are born of soul. Not understanding what is happening to the Palestinians is your lookout.

BelleHathor · 23/05/2025 18:28

smallglassbottle · 23/05/2025 18:08

Nothing, anywhere in the universe, justifies this. Absolutely nothing. You've lost your humanity and are an empty shell with no soul if you honestly think this is okay (to those who think this is a good thing).

Think. About. It.

Fully agree, just viewing the images and videos are soul destroying. Imagine experiencing it.

There are still 19000+ names we do not know.

ExitChasedByAPolarBear · 23/05/2025 18:21

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:15

Okay, read it again.

So what bad things do you want to happen to people exactly?

@devourfeculence What on earth are you trying to say? I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove.

Gardeninging · 23/05/2025 18:19

HellsBalls · 23/05/2025 16:46

They are not being bombed in tents, and half of any people reportedly killed will be terrorists.
So to be a tad more accurate, another 25 Gazans died today, along with 25 Hamas terrorists.

They were all 100% innocent children and victims so that Isreal can continue their pursuit of achieving the "Greater Israel"
Netenyahu has been very open about this.

It's not about Hamas. "The Hamas" is a convenient excuse to obliterate Gaza to give the Isrealis more land. This is quite openly spoken about.

Isrealis who support Genocide need to be stopped.

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:15

MissyB1 · 23/05/2025 18:13

Its a shame you can't read my post properly. Try again.

Okay, read it again.

So what bad things do you want to happen to people exactly?

MissyB1 · 23/05/2025 18:13

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:01

So what horrific things are you wishing on people exactly?

Its a shame you can't read my post properly. Try again.

smallglassbottle · 23/05/2025 18:08

BelleHathor · 23/05/2025 17:12

Trigger warning for image.

His name was Khaled Al-Zeinati, a baby burned alive in his tent last week, may he Rest in Peace.

Feel free to search for him, warning that the unblurred picture is triggering. Also look at all the "lovely" people calling it AI or Pallywood or saying FAFO.

Nothing, anywhere in the universe, justifies this. Absolutely nothing. You've lost your humanity and are an empty shell with no soul if you honestly think this is okay (to those who think this is a good thing).

Think. About. It.

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:01

MissyB1 · 23/05/2025 17:56

It's not aggressive to point out that what goes around usually comes around. If you wish horrific things on other people, then you had better hope you aren't tempting fate. If people on here are comfortable with kids being starved to death, having their limbs blown off, and losing both parents and their siblings, then they need to ask themselves if they would be comfortable with that happening to their own kids.

So what horrific things are you wishing on people exactly?

devourfeculence · 23/05/2025 18:01

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What exactly have I said that was Islamaphobic? That's a serious accusation.

MissyB1 · 23/05/2025 17:56

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 15:58

You're a buddhist? Who knew? Bit aggressive for a buddhist.

It's not aggressive to point out that what goes around usually comes around. If you wish horrific things on other people, then you had better hope you aren't tempting fate. If people on here are comfortable with kids being starved to death, having their limbs blown off, and losing both parents and their siblings, then they need to ask themselves if they would be comfortable with that happening to their own kids.

BelleHathor · 23/05/2025 17:12

Trigger warning for image.

His name was Khaled Al-Zeinati, a baby burned alive in his tent last week, may he Rest in Peace.

Feel free to search for him, warning that the unblurred picture is triggering. Also look at all the "lovely" people calling it AI or Pallywood or saying FAFO.

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To be horrified that Israel is slaughtering children at a rate not seen in over 20 years? (thread 2)
Glitchymn1 · 23/05/2025 17:05

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 15:58

You're a buddhist? Who knew? Bit aggressive for a buddhist.

Karma- aggressive? I would say that’s very mild in the circumstances!

HellsBalls · 23/05/2025 16:46

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 23/05/2025 16:02

It's quite relevant here, where a thread about events affecting refugees in Gaza being bombed and starved in tents has been derailed by a discussion of this shooting. Another 50 people (at least) died today in bombings.

They are not being bombed in tents, and half of any people reportedly killed will be terrorists.
So to be a tad more accurate, another 25 Gazans died today, along with 25 Hamas terrorists.

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 16:17

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 23/05/2025 16:02

It's quite relevant here, where a thread about events affecting refugees in Gaza being bombed and starved in tents has been derailed by a discussion of this shooting. Another 50 people (at least) died today in bombings.

Still not relevant to describe them that way, it's a narrative device to appeal to a particular prejudice, a dog whistle if you like. You and I both heard it.
woof.

andtheworldrollson · 23/05/2025 16:16

Yes but they were named people with faces and lives and family to shout for them

sad but true that to many one name matters whereas 50 nameless don’t

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 23/05/2025 16:02

quantumbutterfly · 23/05/2025 13:27

.....privileged white people...... - was that necessary?

It's quite relevant here, where a thread about events affecting refugees in Gaza being bombed and starved in tents has been derailed by a discussion of this shooting. Another 50 people (at least) died today in bombings.

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