What does 'Free Palestine' mean to you?

Is the occupied west bank free too? Even though Hamas isn't ruling there. There's plenty of Jewish settler terrorists though burning down mosques and Palestinian properly, aided and enabled by the IDF.

Palestine is free just that Hamas has it in a stranglehold

Exactly. The past 19months have certainly shown us what Israel are capable of if the decades before that hadn't. Year in year, year out Israel kill more Palestinians than the other way around yet somehow Palestinians are painted as crazed killers who can't even be trusted with self determination. Year in year out Israeli settlers are the ones who steal more and more Palestinian land with the full support of the Israeli government support yet Palestinians are the ones painted as trying to stop Israel from existing. It's some crazy blinkered thinking from some.

Not one person here has said they don't want Israel to exist?

I certainly don't.

Israel exists it is a country with a people who have pride in their nationality. It is a country with a history, a government, a culture: that cannot be dismantled and people ethnically cleansed from an area that they were born into for a one state solution.

I just think people of Gaza and West Bank should also have this right.

Well just let the Israelis kill all the Palestinians horrifically instead so?

As they are doing right at this moment.
Much better solution.

Doesn't mean much at all, but they do need to be free from Hamas as a pp said. A two state solution won't work, all the surrounding Arab nations want Israel gone. Trouble is going to keep on happening.

Oh you said it better than me.

This.

Yes that’s my understanding. Free Palestine does not mean two state solution.

I certainly dont say that now, I might have done a few years ago. Its a trite, simplistic and ultimately meaningless concept

They could have had that 77 years ago. The Arabs (who they referred to themselves as at the time) did not want that, a horrific and catastrophic mistake for generations afterwards IMO.

To me Free Palestine means Israel taking down the border wall with Gaza, doing away with checkpoints in the West Bank, giving autonomy over their airspace and coast and Palestinians being free to kill all the Jews as horrifically as they did on Oct 7th, as they try to take control of Israel.

I’m sure the surrounding Arab states would be chomping at the bit to join in and help!

Oct 7th showed us what Palestinians are capable of when they can invade Israel.

It would be disingenuous to think otherwise.

How can we say what it means? I know what it means to me, but I imagine it means very different things to all the people who say or post it.

I despair of a world that will ever be at peace with nations allowing each other to live happily.

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What it should mean is confronting, acknowledging and moving on from the toxic legacy of the ottoman empire. Unfortunately what it does mean is a doom loop of revenge and futility. Vergangenheitsbewältigung, for Arab states to move on, drive out Islamists and seek peace.

Exactly, in this case free Palestine has a pretty clear meaning:

Palestinians having the right to safety, security, self determination, political and economic and property rights.

That's what "free Palestine" means.

Acting like the phrase is super complicated or (lol) anti Semitic to disguise the fact that you (a general "you") don't think Palestinians deserve those basic and fundamental human rights seems like you in fact support the ongoing oppression of Palestinians, instead.

They don't want to be free of Hamas though.

I find people who usually oppose another country having democratic freedoms usually have the advantage of being in the position of the oppressor.

Free Palestine from Israeli occupation and oppression.

A Two state division between Palestine and Israel and a democratically elected non terrorist government.

To me it means the end of the Israeli occupation (1967).

I agree that this is what it means to me. And all the settlers out of the West Bank.

Exactly this. Those poor people are trapped in a never ending nightmare

Same.

If I hear someone say free Palestine I take it to mean they wish to see the dismantling and destruction of Israel and a single Palestinian state to exist instead.