Student activist detained in the US

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gp613029eo.amp

Where exactly did he say this?

Yes - that sounds like a terrorist supporter to me.
Deportation is more than fair.
No peaceful country can tolerate people who promote terrorism.

I quite agree. His lawyers have had a hearing before a Federal judge today:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mahmoud-khalil-court-arrest-detention-immigration-green-card-rcna195990

His original visa application would have included an affirmation that he didn't support any designated terrorist organizations. That clearly was untrue, and his green card application can be voided for the same reason.

https://fam.state.gov/fam/09FAM/09FAM030206.html

The Trump administration didn't write the rules about immigrants not supporting terrorist groups. If it's true that this person has been handing out leaflets describing October 7 as a moral and military victory or similar, then they are well within their rights to deport him. Having a green card is a privilege. He is not a US citizen. If he has chosen to throw that away by supporting hamas then that's on him. I'm sure he's not the first to be deported under these rules.

I can see why anyone stating

"Sinwar later became the architect of two of the greatest moments of Palestinian resistance in the past decade: 2018's Great March of Return and last year's Operation Al-Aqsa Flood."

Might be problematic and get deported

It doesn't have to be criminal charges. Its expressly written into the immigration rules that "expression of support for a terrorist organization" is grounds for deportation. If he has been doing this, and it's claimed that he has, as well as disseminating leaflets in support of hamas, then he can be deported. This has always been the case. Its not a nefarious Jewish plot to deport people who protest against Israel. Protesting is fine, supporting hamas, who are a designated terrorist organization, is not. Simple as that.

Having said that, he is entitled to the correct legal processes and for the government to prove that he has done those things before being deported and I hope that this is the case here

If it is uncertain, I’m sure it will be the subject of a lot of legal wrangling, but the fact is you don’t have to be convicted of a crime to be deported.

I find it staggering when supporters of Hamas bang on about freedom of speech. How much time do they spend campaigning for freedom of speech in Gaza?

OUTSIDE abortion clinics is fine. OUTSIDE the uni property, fine. ON uni property, occupying buildings and advocating for armed resistance, not fine, just like abortion clinic protestors are not allowed on clinic property. Protest in the US may only legally be held on public property, and unis are not public property.

His group, CUAD, in October 2024 issued a statement supporting "liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance," retracting an earlier apology for a member’s violent remarks and asserting that "violence is the only path forward" against oppression.

Green card holders can PEACEABLY (the Constitution's word) assemble, but they may not occupy buildings they don't own, hold other students hostage or advocate for violence.

Sinwar later became the architect of two of the greatest moments of Palestinian resistance in the past decade: 2018's Great March of Return and last year's Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.

Apologies I had not seen that bit. I'd agree that the USA are quite probably in their right then to deport anyone who has written that. That can be said to be supporting a terrorist attack for sure. I guess the argument will be whether this individual can be proven to have written that article, or does his association with the group make him guilty of support whether he wrote it or not - please note I mean from a legal pov not a moral pov.

I think if he didn't have a Green Card and wasn't married to a US citizen he's be on a plane back to Syria already. The green card will make it that the State have more of a legal battle to prove it I guess.

I don't see any pro Hamas stuff there, just pro Palestine stuff,

Right at the beginning of the first linked article, CUAD mention a “tribute to Yahya Sinwar” and later describe him as “resistance leader” and “political prisoner” (rather than convicted criminal).
Even if you just skim read the links you must have noticed that surely?

There won't be any clarity as the aim by people propagating that he's been charge is not to disseminate accurate information but to make people fearful of supporting Palestine.

Even CNN had to push back on a guest who spread these unconfirmed rumours (potentially opening him to being sued)

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1899289704945885531

Blakeman: He came here on a student visa. He's paid by a terrorist organization.. I have evidence

Phillip: Paid by who?

Blakeman: I didn’t ask my intelligence division who..

Navarro: You are saying things on National TV that you cannot corroborate.

As a pp stated, the law doesn’t require there to be criminal charges. If you support a terrorist organisation you can be deported.

Exactly, Trump has fuc**d up majorly and is receiving major pushback from his base. MAGA is arguing that Democrats used similar authoritarian actions to persecute them over January 6th, Covid Mandates, Hunter Biden Laptop etc. United States of Israel was trending on social media yesterday.

What supporters of authoritarian moves like this often fail to anticipate, is that once a precedent is set like this the next Democrat administration can use the same provisions to target whoever they deemed to be an enemy.

The thing about free speech is that it has to work both ways (as long as legal). I can't stand ongoing disruptive protests like this, whether it's about Stop Oil or whatever. I'd rather there was a march and go home. But I get that people are passionate about their cause and will raise publicity how they feel they can.

I don't see any pro Hamas stuff there, just pro Palestine stuff, stop the killing, etc. But I admit I have skim read your links - one in particular is very lengthy and I'm on my phone in my lunch break. Obviously it would have been nice if they'd also condemned the attacks on Israel and said that the hostages should be freed but they're under no obligation to. Anyone who drew swastikas on walls, etc or made threats against other students should be expelled and dealt with by the police.

Funny that Trump et al are so against anyone who was associated with this protest but do nothing to stop the non stop protests outside abortion clinics in the USA. Seems it's OK to protest as long as Trump likes what you're protesting about.

But then the 1st amendment protects free speech doesn't it? Will certainly be interesting to see the conclusion of this.

An interesting thread on X, by a parent of a student who’s experienced these “peaceful protests” at their university:

https://x.com/mihaschw/status/1899503908684247457

'we had to move our kids out of the campuses, not just because of the protests and tents and blocking their access to…everywhere in campus - but because of the constant death threats, very dangerous and disgusting physical gestures, shouting and banging on their dorms doors, day and night, stupid and retarded jokes, violating their privacy in the commun bathrooms, fear of having God knows what in their food, because of the kefyieh people serving in their cantina, zvastikas and sick writings on their walls, class dissrupted freestyle, calling them humiliating names while in class and so on.'

Did he? If that’s true then obviously he should face criminal charges….i don’t believe he has 🤷‍♀️

Everything I can find on the internet about that incident from the time has him down as a “negotiator” for the group who broke into the building but not actually taking part in the break in himself. The photos from the time he certainly appears to be outside the building. But I’m very open to anything which proves otherwise.