Why do you support Palestine?

There’s plenty of evidence that the IDF have raped and tortured civilians , many Palestinians held hostage without trial yet you expect us to believe what they say

Thank you for sharing. The video articulates how people blindly follow orders without really thinking of those they harm. At least he thought retrospectively of the poor Palestinian families. History seems littered with this, and nothing changes.

You support Israel who are committing genocide and have killed tens of thousands of children and left babies to die in incubators. The death of the bibas children is tragic. Why is the death of themselves of thousands of Palestinian children any less tragic ?

The date that he states is interesting on that video.

Thanks for this orange

His words ‘ the occupation is not about security it is about control’ coming from a member of the Israeli forces on the ground.

That is why people support the Palestinians..to stop them being controlled by another country.

@AniBocha Seriously?!!!! Why don't you just say the quiet part out loud.

If I knew what the "quiet part" was, I might (if I agreed with it) say it.

Tell you what..... you tell me what the "quiet part" is, and I'll tell you if I am in agreement. Can't say fairer than that.

Seriously?!!!! Why don't you just say the quiet part out loud.

Hamas would have been prepared to negotiate October 8th. They knew then that they could make no further "gains" and that all that they faced from then onwards was bombardment and invasion. So it was in their interest to negotiate.
There was absolutely no mention whatsoever from Netanyahu about talks about hostage release. From the very start all he could see was his own response that involved yet more death and destruction.

I appreciate that the problem with negotiation is that it sends out a message that all you need to do is terrorise, take hostages and that will give you what you want. And the global line is that you don't "give in" to hostage taking because it will encourage other terrorist organisations with a grievance. It would have been a brave person to go against that thinking and to start talking. Netanyahu with his own agenda, was certainly not that kind of person and was happy to sacrifice other peoples lives for it.

I think you're missing the point that I was making. The point being, that the current temporary ceasefire with the relatively low loss of life coupled with the negotiations over hostages, is preferable to anything that has been happening over the past 15 months.

Very interesting. Especially how detached he really does seem from his words

Can you imagine the psychological terror of knowing any time you go to bed that your children will be woken by a soldier throwing them into another room.

Disgusting.

Far better than what was going on in the 15 months before.

It really isn't that difficult to see.

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Well, he's obviously doing so now in order to get hostages back, why didn't he do so 15 months ago ?

Firstly, line up Israeli armour on the border in order to secure it.
Secondly sit down and negotiate hostage release. All the evidence to date has shown that the only way to secure the release of any hostages has been through negotiation.
Thirdly, continue those talks as part of a wider negotiation as to the establishment of a Palestinian state ( alongside Israel) for a guarantee of security.

But Netanyahu does not want the establishment of a Palestinian state, cares little about the hostages and so chose another route.

I would have targeted attacks at Hamas leaders. It may have taken more time, but it was achieved in certain cases. And could have been done, given the will.
I would not have dropped bombs on EVERY hospital in northern Gaza.
I would not have used starvation tactics and dropped bombs on EVERY bakery in the city.
I would not have sent messages to civilians telling them to leave their homes and go to 'Safe Areas' and then dropped bombs on the 'safe areas'.
I would not have cut off the water supply to a population of millions.
I would not have sent the army into the only university, cleared it and made it safe, then levelled it, ensuring the end of education for a decade to come.
I would not have instituted a policy of killing journalists in an attempt to keep a lot of the above secret.

I could go on, but they atrocities committed by Netanyahu should be a good reason for you to see that the status quo is not good for Palestine and why self-determination is a legitimate aim.

You have all the right to be terrified indeed, if you are in the area.

But, what is the other option?
You have not brought one forward, because there is not one.
US and arab nations are debating (with Israel involvement), as we speak, the formation of a Palestine State nursed by the arab nations themselves, for the peace in the whole area. In my opinion, it is the only option.
Look at Germany and Japan today. They are actually mentioning them as templates to the interim State to be formed. By the arabs, so no imposing on western thinking here.

Doing nothing or keeping up with the bombing of Gaza will result in furher attacks on Israel. I have no doubt on that. And why? Why keep bombing those poor civilians? They have almost no building left standing. Hamas may be weakened, but still there and looking good, as yourself pointed.

That’s not the reverse of the question at all. It’s a completely different one. And certainly doesn’t answer my question to you.
But since you ask I would never have supported Hamas’s rise to power in the first place ( or derailed the Oslo accords) and would have reaponded with limited targeted attacks/ assassination of Hamas leaders, efforts to cut off hamas’s money from international businesses and working with the international community to create leverage to separate the Palestinian people from Hamas and put political solutions on the table. Also negotiate for the return of the hostages obviously. In the meantime I would address security gaps to protect the Israeli people from further attacks. While they shouldn’t have to, I fully recognize that Hamas would remain a danger and my plan is not a short term fix. There were shocking breaches of security that enabled the attacks to be as deadly as they were - with the money and resources they have this should never have happened. My suggestions are very much long term and I realize they are nebulous, but Netanyahu’s haven’t done anything except temporarily weaken the threat - all that death and destruction and Hamas is still there and probably recruiting from a brutalized population that sees no future.

Again wildflower, what is fair and leading to peace, once and for all, it is to have a two state solution.
Fear will not change my mind.
I have not imposed my thinking on anyone, by the way. You asked for opinions, if you do not want them, why asking? I say they have the right to decide what they want to do with their lives and government. How is that assuming they think like a westerner?