Breaking News - Shiri Bibas has not been returned

Bizarre behaviour isn't it. I'm almost convinced that poster is trying their best to turn more people against Palestinians.

Hard to stomach that someone enjoying the privileges of living in the west would be so radicalised that they would genuinely make such tone death and pathetic excuses, for a level of barbarity that demons would consider going too far.

You’ve come on a thread about the Bibas family to deflect and minimise
Shame on you.

This is so awful, those children wouldn’t have been murdered or died in an air strike or whatever you want to believe if they haven’t have been kidnapped would they? There wouldn’t have been air strikes if there hadn’t been hostages would there? Use your brain and think logically about what is happening.

I cannot see the equivalence between kidnapping civilians of whom all are innocent and sometimes imprisoning civilians who are innocent (like all countries do from time to time) unless you are prejudice. The uk imprisons the wrong people sometimes, would it be ok for someone to take and kill some uk children then as it would just be both sides being as bad as each other? I wonder what marches we’d see on the streets for that?

Please explain where what I've said isn't correct?

@EdithStourton That's OK then we're on the same page, yes some of them have but some of them haven't also, I've never said Kfir Bibas has done anything have I, but neither has Dr Hussam Abu Shafiya, still being held I believe, and many others also, it's important to talk about those people as some people on here like to turn a blind eye to those innocent people

That's what concerned me, @OpheliaWasntMad I saw too many offensive banners, heard too many negative chants on what was supposed to be (I thought) peaceful marches.
Nobody thought it was appropriate to say "free the hostages" and the one man who had a banner saying "Hamas= terror" was attacked by the crowd.
That was a turning point for me.

Can't they just release them, without this awful performance? Dear lord, it's sickening.

Are these awful archers out in cities today. Awful the lot of them.

I never said it did though, I'm simply replying to a poster who said all Palestinian prisoners/detainees were criminals, which is factually incorrect as you know well

Depraved is the word. Those masked men in black, touting automatic weapons, posturing like that, with traumatised and broken hostages.
Vile.

Some posters work hard to justify what hamas do.

Yes I see the justification in some of these messages.
Isreal wasn't supposed to attack Hamas back even when they attacked and took civilians. After all, Hamas had tunnels and rockets and stood behind women and children. They took their jackets off and joined their friends.
Now Hamas has useful supporters who, instead of condemning them, focus their sights on Isreal.

I hope this is the end of this family's torment, and they can begin to grieve and deal with their loss.
💛
I am disgusted by the images this morning of the hostages release. There is no humanity or dignity on show there.

Yes

I cannot watch the handover today, this is so utterly depraved .
I really hope these public handovers cease and we stop permitting public platforms for these wicked people.
I despair at the volume of posters here defending this relentless terror, MN too for facilitating such hatred.
Shame on them all-am praying 🙏 today for a better world.

Wow that's terrorist support of the extreme kind. Awful

I'm having the same at work, Katie. The level of ignorance is astonishing.

I didn't see anything about 'all' the released Palestinians being prisoners. I flicked back through this page to check.

Some of those released have been convicted of multiple murders. And Kfir Bibas had done what, precisely?

Nothing justifies the behaviour of Hamas.
Your constant attempts to suggest there is equivalence are very revealing about you.

I'm not talking about the Israeli hostages though, you said the Palestinian prisoners were all accused of crimes, which of course we know isn't true

We knew from the start what sort of people Hamas were. Shani Louk. The filming and glee during October 7th . The atrocities . The ongoing hostage torture .
And yet still people marched every week for Palestine. No reference in the marches to the hostages. Instead anti semitic sentiments were commonplace on the marches.
Posters on here pushed back aggressively when I asked why there was no condemnation of Hamas from the pro Palestinian protesters.
counter protesters who condemned Hamas or held posters of hostages were abused. Pro Palestinian marchers thought that was ok .

I was ( and still am) sympathetic to Palestinians.
But I am beginning to truly loathe the protestors in the west .

What about the ones who haven't been accused of wrongdoing?