Breaking News - Shiri Bibas has not been returned

Oh bloody hell . No words. There just aren’t any .

Omg. Such evil.

Just read it too. Absolutely horrible.

@EmilyDickinson Unknown about Shiri, but IDF spokesperson just released following information:

*TRIGGER WARNING ‼️ *

We can confirm that baby Kfir Bibas, just 10 months old, and his older brother Ariel, aged four, were both brutally murdered by terrorists while being held hostage in Gaza no later than November 2023. These two innocent children were taken hostage alive, along with their mother, Shiri, from their home on October 7, 2023,” IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says
“Contrary to Hamas’s lies, Ariel and Kfir were not killed in an airstrike. Ariel and Kfir Bibas were murdered in cold blood by terrorists,” he says. “The terrorists did not shoot the two young boys — they killed them with their bare hands. Afterwards, they committed horrific acts to cover up these atrocities. This assessment is based on forensic findings and intelligence that supports these conclusions. We have shared this intelligence and the forensic findings with our partners around the world so they can verify it.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-february-21-2025/#liveblog-entry-3487987

It must be heartbreaking for the families of hostages to know that their loved ones are dead. It must be terrible to wait to receive their bodies and then for the wrong body to be given to them must give cause incredible sorrow and anger.

It troubles me though that the firm belief seems to be that Shiri Bibas and her children were murdered and the body of a Palestinian woman was deliberately handed over. That may be true - I don’t know. I feel like we should try and wait for more information. I don’t really understand what could possibly be gained by handing over the wrong body?

Is it possible that Shiri Bibas was killed in an Israeli airstrike as thousands of people living in Gaza have been? Bombs do not distinguish between hostages and Palestinians. I understand that Hamas has said for a year that she died in an air strike. Is it possible when retrieving the bodies from the rubble it was not possible (without DNA testing) to tell who was who?

Are you the poster that said "Hamas are fighting back in the only way they know how"?

😮 shocked, that's an awful thing to say.

That's not the question I asked though

Apparently Hamas does.

Are you saying you agree with ethnic cleansing then?

Hamas and the singing and dancing innocents showed us what they really are and what their aim is. We should we not believe them?

It will be spun to blame Israel, it always is. The followers will lap it all up. They always do.

What I found particularly distressing was the well fed healthy looking Palestinians and their families cheering and celebrating as the bodies of a baby, a four year old, their mum and an old man were handed to the Red Cross. What heroes Hamas are....
There's always posters on these threads going on about the children of Gaza and how dreadful the IDF are. They looked in pretty good shape to me dancing and singing on the stage where the coffins had been. A nice family day out for the people of Gaza.
Maybe Trump has the right idea after all.

Probably part of the 'resistance' that the marchers all chant about. Gormless.

It's disgraceful but I'm not surprised. Is she alive? Did they kill her another way and don't want that coming out. So they package up a Palestinian woman and send her body. Shows the lack of thought for the Palestinian woman and her family.

They are quite sick but then some of us knew that already abd weren't fooled by their 'resistance'.

How does anybody carry on when this ….beyond words demonic display …has happened to their babies and wife 😞😩 my head and heart can’t take it and I’m not related 💔💔💔💔💔

I felt sick when I heard the news this morning

Bloody Hamas wants to provoke Israel as much as possible.

Of course bloody Hamas don't want peace. Not all that many years after there had been the election which voted them in I was in a meeting where I pointed out that the Palestinians?/Gazans? had voted for Hamas and they knew they were not peaceable. I think I was very much viewed as a nasty cow for saying it. I accept that there haven't been elections there for a long time and there are lots of Gazans who haven't ever been old enough to vote, but I am not sorry that I said my sentence that day.

I don't think every Palestinian is bad and I don't think that every Israeli is good. That is a very simplistic sentence but I haven't time to expand it, and this isn't the right thread, anyway.

And when the 'last' hostage is handed other we still won't know how many they kept for the fun of it.

The only way was to find and rescue them not bargain with terrorists

Those poor babies and their mother. Where is she? Sick beyond words.

Pretty obvious Hamas don't want peace, and neither do ordinary Gazans by the look of the scenes yesterday. My heart goes out to Yarden and I stand with Israel.

Poor Yarden . It is unspeakably evil and cruel .

That poor family.
Everything that Yarden has been through and now this.
It’s unspeakable.

There are other threads about this but on this one I’m paying my respects to the Bibas family.

Hamas are simply revolting.

I wonder what Hamas response will be? Try and claim Israel is lying and the ceasefire collapses? Perhaps this is what Hamas wanted all along - I had my doubts from the beginning that the ceasefire would last longer than stage 1