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Bomb Blasts in Israel- suspected terrorist attacks

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AniBocha · 20/02/2025 21:12

BBC NEWS link

Buses in Israel are attacked using explosives.

Shocking news from Israel.
If this is confirmed as a terroist attack then these dregs of society are showing they never ever want peace.

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ImmediateReaction · 03/03/2025 07:21

AniBocha · 20/02/2025 21:12

BBC NEWS link

Buses in Israel are attacked using explosives.

Shocking news from Israel.
If this is confirmed as a terroist attack then these dregs of society are showing they never ever want peace.

They don't want peace. They want the end of Israel.

BelleHathor · 21/02/2025 17:55

Fortunately, the Israeli media is openly reporting on this. The people arrested today are accused of transporting the as of now unknown suspects to plant the bombs on the buses.

https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/862639/ :
"Bat Yam bus bombing: Two Jewish-Israeli suspects arrested
The two are being investigated on suspicion of transporting the terrorists who placed the explosives on the buses"

"The Shin Bet arrested two Jewish-Israeli suspects, residents of Holon and Bat Yam, for questioning this morning (Friday), on suspicion of involvement in transporting the terrorists who planted the bombs on buses in Bat Yam. The two are also charged with attempted murder.

At the same time, the hunt continues for the suspects who planted explosive devices last night in three buses parked at different locations in Bat Yam and another bus in Holon. The first two exploded within minutes of each other, and another exploded about fifteen minutes later. Another device that was supposed to explode was also discovered on the bus and neutralized. There were no casualties as a result of the explosion"

https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/2025-02-21/ty-article/.premium/00000195-27e8-d2a5-a39d-e7f899820000

"Two Israelis were arrested last night (Friday) and transferred to Shin Bet interrogation on suspicion of transporting the explosive devices found yesterday on buses in Bat Yam and Holon. The court issued a publication ban on the details of the investigation."

(both articles are in Hebrew but most browsers can translate)

I will await the court hearings, which hopefully we will get to see/read about depending on whether the gag order is lifted.

sundaymorningatwork · 21/02/2025 16:51

BelleHathor · 21/02/2025 14:52

Reports coming in from Israeli media that some suspects (including an Israeli citizen) were arrested this morning.

It's looking more like a continuation of the internal fight between Netanyahu's office and Shin Bet (who are currently investigating a Netanyahu aide for ties to Qatar).

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rkh500ascje

You misunderstand the news I’m afraid. The people arrested aren’t part of this ‘false flag’ operation you’re erroneously alleging, but unfortunately terrorists with Israeli citizenship. Also, you had my last post deleted, but the essence of my post was to ask for any verified reports of ‘false flag’ operations of domestic terrorism by Israel, without referring to YouTube videos…

Liv999 · 21/02/2025 15:09

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 14:45

@dairydebris
An atrocity was commited against Israel. At least 5 buses were fitted with bombs that if timed correctly would have gone off killing many innocent civilians just going about their business.

What evidence is there that there were timers and if there were, that the timers were incorrectly set? The only information we have is from Israel and is so far, very vague.

Your immediate response to this was to speculate that it's likely a false flag operation.
Untrue, my immediate response was that it was 75/25. I never said "likely", I said possibly. Only after Netanyahu stated he was upping the aggression on the West Bank did I change to 50/50.

This despite it has been a well known tactic of terrorists in this region to bomb buses and target civilians.
Yet you still jump to the conclusion Israel is at fault, rather than any of the terrorist groups currently active.

I didn't jump to the conclusion that Israel is "at fault" I simply stated there was a possibility it might have been false flag.

It sounds @as though you are talking as if you have prejudices against Israelis.

If it sounds like that to you, then you are hearing things.

You talk as if you hate Israel, people might assume you hate Israel.
I hate Israel's behaviour. I don't think that the slaughter and destruction in Gaza was the best response.

Please don't fall into the trap of believing that anyone questioning Israel's actions is a "Jew-hating", "from the river to the sea" , "Hamas - supporting", terrorist apologist. That's just lazy thinking.
The situation is far more nuanced than that.

👏👏

BelleHathor · 21/02/2025 14:52

Reports coming in from Israeli media that some suspects (including an Israeli citizen) were arrested this morning.

It's looking more like a continuation of the internal fight between Netanyahu's office and Shin Bet (who are currently investigating a Netanyahu aide for ties to Qatar).

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rkh500ascje

quantumbutterfly · 21/02/2025 14:49

Mouthpipette, have you actually used that technique? It's been many, many years since it was standard practice.

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 14:45

@dairydebris
An atrocity was commited against Israel. At least 5 buses were fitted with bombs that if timed correctly would have gone off killing many innocent civilians just going about their business.

What evidence is there that there were timers and if there were, that the timers were incorrectly set? The only information we have is from Israel and is so far, very vague.

Your immediate response to this was to speculate that it's likely a false flag operation.
Untrue, my immediate response was that it was 75/25. I never said "likely", I said possibly. Only after Netanyahu stated he was upping the aggression on the West Bank did I change to 50/50.

This despite it has been a well known tactic of terrorists in this region to bomb buses and target civilians.
Yet you still jump to the conclusion Israel is at fault, rather than any of the terrorist groups currently active.

I didn't jump to the conclusion that Israel is "at fault" I simply stated there was a possibility it might have been false flag.

It sounds @as though you are talking as if you have prejudices against Israelis.

If it sounds like that to you, then you are hearing things.

You talk as if you hate Israel, people might assume you hate Israel.
I hate Israel's behaviour. I don't think that the slaughter and destruction in Gaza was the best response.

Please don't fall into the trap of believing that anyone questioning Israel's actions is a "Jew-hating", "from the river to the sea" , "Hamas - supporting", terrorist apologist. That's just lazy thinking.
The situation is far more nuanced than that.

dairydebris · 21/02/2025 13:56

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 13:34

I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Please expand.

An atrocity was commited against Israel. At least 5 buses were fitted with bombs that if timed correctly would have gone off killing many innocent civilians just going about their business.

Your immediate response to this was to speculate that it's likely a false flag operation.

This despite it has been a well known tactic of terrorists in this region to bomb buses and target civilians.

Yet you still jump to the conclusion Israel is at fault, rather than any of the terrorist groups currently active.

It sounds @as though you are talking as if you have prejudices against Israelis.

You talk as if you hate Israel, people might assume you hate Israel.

Quacks like a duck.

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 13:34

dairydebris · 21/02/2025 07:43

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Please expand.

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 13:30

SharonEllis · 21/02/2025 07:18

This is a mind blowing post. At the end of a day of such agony, with the absolute evil of Hamas on display, with the news that Shiri Bibas has not been returned. You choose to post this.

Every day since the start of October 2023 has been a day of agony and were we to be expected not to post on a day of agony, then these boards would be devoid of content. It was simply an observation on those bus explosions.

sundaymorningatwork · 21/02/2025 11:48

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BidoofBlue · 21/02/2025 08:41

BelleHathor · 20/02/2025 22:45

Social media seems to be split 50/50 between Terrorist Attack and False Flag.

72 hour rule, would be a perfect excuse though for the Israeli Government to annex the West Bank.

I will let the OSINT (Open-source intelligence) groups do their thing, they're currently analysing an unexploded bomb on another bus.

Well if social media says it's a false flag....

AniBocha · 21/02/2025 08:27

It seems only Israel gets accused so quickly of being the actual one behind these attacks or murders. The level of spin. It's a wonder posters who 'yes but...' are not in need of serious yoga to unknot themselves.

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dairydebris · 21/02/2025 07:43

SharonEllis · 21/02/2025 07:18

This is a mind blowing post. At the end of a day of such agony, with the absolute evil of Hamas on display, with the news that Shiri Bibas has not been returned. You choose to post this.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.

SharonEllis · 21/02/2025 07:18

mouthpipette · 20/02/2025 23:56

@AniBocha wrote
I believe it is a terrorist attack.

When I first heard I'd have put it at 75 / 25 for terrorist act / false flag. My leaning towards false flag being because Terrorists don't blow up empty buses. Their barbarity is invariably targeted at humans.

Then I saw this.

23.30
"Benjamin Netanyahu has ordered the Israeli military to carry out "an intensive operation against centres of terrorism" in the West Bank, the prime minister's office posted on X a short time ago."

I'm probably now 50 / 50.

How few people does it take to carry out a false flag operation ?
How's it done?
Anyone on here from Mossad or Shin Bet?
You don't have to put the answer up on here, you can just PM me. I won't tell.

This is a mind blowing post. At the end of a day of such agony, with the absolute evil of Hamas on display, with the news that Shiri Bibas has not been returned. You choose to post this.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:52

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 00:42

Oh please,for heaven's sake, actually read and take in what I say.

I wrote earlier that it was a motive, not "credible evidence".

The endless quibbling.

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 00:42

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:34

I didn't suppose you would, seeing as you think responding to a threat is credible evidence for having created the threat.

Oh please,for heaven's sake, actually read and take in what I say.

I wrote earlier that it was a motive, not "credible evidence".

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:34

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 00:24

I saw that earlier, but didn't think it held much weight.

I didn't suppose you would, seeing as you think responding to a threat is credible evidence for having created the threat.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:33

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 00:22

@BaMamma wrote,
Hamas &c also have motive.
So, there's that.

I agree, they do indeed, though I'm guessing it would be a splinter group or more likely a group from the west bank, or single actors. So rather than your "Hamas" I'd probably go with your "co". I would imagine that under negotiation, Hamas would try to have a tight control over their militia and not give the Israelis an obvious excuse to restart offensives.

Hamas have already broken the ceasefire agreement by not returning the body of Shiri Bibas as agreed.

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 00:24

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:22

From the BBC report, "According to local media, one of the unexploded devices, weighing 5kg, carried a message saying, "Revenge from Tulkarem" - referring to a recent Israeli military counter-terrorism operation in the West Bank."

I saw that earlier, but didn't think it held much weight.

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 00:22

@BaMamma wrote,
Hamas &c also have motive.
So, there's that.

I agree, they do indeed, though I'm guessing it would be a splinter group or more likely a group from the west bank, or single actors. So rather than your "Hamas" I'd probably go with your "co". I would imagine that under negotiation, Hamas would try to have a tight control over their militia and not give the Israelis an obvious excuse to restart offensives.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:22

From the BBC report, "According to local media, one of the unexploded devices, weighing 5kg, carried a message saying, "Revenge from Tulkarem" - referring to a recent Israeli military counter-terrorism operation in the West Bank."

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 00:16

The fact that no one was injured suggests Israel. My reasoning being that an operation like this, if it ever came out and it had involved fatalities, the Israeli public would turn on a sixpence against those who authorised it. So, damage limitation if it gets out is to keep it with minimal injuries.
Not fact, but reasonable speculation. Still not heard from Shin Bet, they must be busy.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:13

mouthpipette · 21/02/2025 00:10

It's a motive.

Hamas &c also have motive.

So, there's that.

Scirocco · 21/02/2025 00:11

I hope everyone is safe, including all our fellow posters in the region and their loved ones. This is awful.