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Hamas to release the bodies of the Bibas mother and children [Title edited by MNHQ]

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:24

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/middleeast/hamas-israel-hostages-to-release-bibas-family-intl/index.html

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verysmellyjelly · 21/02/2025 07:30

UK policing should crack down hard on Hamas support. No more marches or protests. I'm not even Jewish, fwiw. I think any rational, compassionate person should be able to recognise that Israel is the wronged party here and that Hamas is a depraved death cult, murdering babies and inflicting as much psychological pain as they can. Only deep rooted anti-Semitism can explain why this terrorism is insistently justified and explained away by Westerners when if it happened in any other country on the globe it would be condemned in the harshest possible terms.

Firealarm1414 · 21/02/2025 07:25

Also, the fact that the red cross didn't do its job with regards to the hostages in the first place and is now participating in these disgusting celebrations of dead and starving jews is absolutely shocking and sickening. Why is this not being discussed in the media?

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 21/02/2025 07:19

I worry that they did such terrible things to Shiri her body wouldn't have been in a state to be returned.

Those poor poor babies.

statsfun · 21/02/2025 07:14

It's obvious that hamas are trying to provoke Israel into a reaction

Maybe they're hoping they will provoke a reaction from Israel, but it's also because they're cruel, malicious monsters who hate Jews so much that they want to hurt them as much as they can at every opportunity.

When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Let hamas show the world just who they are, and perhaps some eyes will be opened.

The world is full of Jew-hate. Supposedly humanitarian institutions and terrorist-apologist protesters have shown that repeatedly.

When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

I'm so utterly disgusted and angry.

Looking at we can do in the UK: we need to stop the anti-Israel marches right now and arrest anyone who is supporting the terrorists. It's illegal and needs to stop. Now.

TheSidewinderSleepsTonite · 21/02/2025 07:13

The news this morning is so upsetting. At the very least the boys were with their mother. Even if it had been an airstrike, they would've been killed with their mother. Their safest place. The fact they've been returned without her is absolutely heart wrenching. As if their deaths (murders) weren't heart wrenching enough

Firealarm1414 · 21/02/2025 06:15

It's obvious that hamas are trying to provoke Israel into a reaction with this egregious behaviour because they can sense the tide is turning against them due to spectacle they are making around the hostage releases. They don't care how many gazans will die if they can use it to get sympathy. I hope for now at least that they don't take the bait. Let hamas show the world just who they are, and perhaps some eyes will be opened.

EllaDisenchanted · 21/02/2025 06:07

I don’t have to appreciate it, no.
please don’t talk about a ‘lack of humanity’ on ‘both sides’ when Hamas have sent back 2 kidnapped murdered babies, a kidnapped elderly peace activity and a random body, have paraded them on stage, and abused their own children by making them party to the spectacle, and as a cherry on top coordinated attempted mass murder via 5 bus bombs. I haven’t slept half the night because it brought me straight back to the horror of the second intifada.
maybe despair about Israeli ‘lack of humanity’ on another thread.

they killed them. Forensics show they weren’t killed in airstrikes. Hamas lie and they lie and they lie. Where is Shiri Bibas?!

ETA: in response to @yummyscummymummy01

Adamante · 21/02/2025 05:48

RubyWinehouse · 20/02/2025 23:54

Yet every weekend we see pro hamas supporters marching around our cities

I was deleted earlier in the thread for saying this. I won’t repeat what I said for fear of further deletion, but who is reporting me for saying this? It’s happening and our authorities are allowing it and paying for them to be managed and policed, over and over again. Absolutely grim.

Firealarm1414 · 21/02/2025 02:32

Worryworrierworrying · 21/02/2025 01:31

Disagree - restraint has been shown, Israel could have flattened Gaza entirely long ago.

This debacle may very well be the final straw for Israel when it comes to restraint. It's awful to see just how heartbroken so many israelis and/or Jewish people are over this. And they are very very angry.

Worryworrierworrying · 21/02/2025 01:31

yummyscummymummy01 · 21/02/2025 00:57

@sittingwaitingtables @EllaDisenchanted I literally commented below how disgusted I was with both. I despair at the lack of humanity on both sides. I think a lot of people do.

What you have to appreciate is this is not an equal fight. Since the beginning of this conflict the side with more power has acted without restraint and has caused immense harm as a result. You can say what you like about idiots going to marches etc but it is this lack of restraint by a government that could have showed more compassion that has caused people to protest.

Disagree - restraint has been shown, Israel could have flattened Gaza entirely long ago.

yummyscummymummy01 · 21/02/2025 00:57

@sittingwaitingtables @EllaDisenchanted I literally commented below how disgusted I was with both. I despair at the lack of humanity on both sides. I think a lot of people do.

What you have to appreciate is this is not an equal fight. Since the beginning of this conflict the side with more power has acted without restraint and has caused immense harm as a result. You can say what you like about idiots going to marches etc but it is this lack of restraint by a government that could have showed more compassion that has caused people to protest.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:40

EllaDisenchanted · 21/02/2025 00:28

I hear. I wish there was more. Each one that does is a potential peace partner. https://x.com/howidyhamza/status/1892477198453371032?s=46
https://x.com/afalkhatib/status/1892656856801194072?s=46

Compassion shouldn't just be limited to one race or religion! 💯

being Jewish today for me felt like a chaotic mix of never having felt closer to all my Jewish brothers and sisters, knowing they were all grieving too, and also painfully lonely, seeing so shamefully few people (outside the advocates who’ve been consistently standing up since oct 7th) condemn todays atrocities and stand with us.

I just still want to amplify the voices of those that did speak out.

Powerful stuff from Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, a native Gazan (my italics):

"It’s time to reject Hamas and separate the Palestinian people’s just and urgent aspirations from a despicable death cult that’s dehumanizing our people time and again. It’s time to denounce all the pro-“resistance” terror enthusiasts in New York, Europe, Australia, and elsewhere who keep cheering on Hamas and are celebrating the shameful parade of dead children, their mother, and an elderly peace activist. "

Scirocco · 21/02/2025 00:34

BBC has an article about the discovery above. Hamas have "not yet commented". I'm not sure whether it's better to link or not to the article, so opting for caution and just saying it's there.

EllaDisenchanted · 21/02/2025 00:28

sittingwaitingtables · 21/02/2025 00:14

@EllaDisenchanted I have seen so little of this. I wrote another post on here about how disgusted I am with the Pro Palestinian activists! Comment after comment of vile rhetoric under any news article that talks about the Bibas family. Since 7th October not one comment about Hamas! It's like a cult! Compassion shouldn't just be limited to one race or religion! You can condemn both EDF and Hamas but they won't!

I hear. I wish there was more. Each one that does is a potential peace partner. https://x.com/howidyhamza/status/1892477198453371032?s=46
https://x.com/afalkhatib/status/1892656856801194072?s=46

Compassion shouldn't just be limited to one race or religion! 💯

being Jewish today for me felt like a chaotic mix of never having felt closer to all my Jewish brothers and sisters, knowing they were all grieving too, and also painfully lonely, seeing so shamefully few people (outside the advocates who’ve been consistently standing up since oct 7th) condemn todays atrocities and stand with us.

I just still want to amplify the voices of those that did speak out.

sittingwaitingtables · 21/02/2025 00:14

@EllaDisenchanted I have seen so little of this. I wrote another post on here about how disgusted I am with the Pro Palestinian activists! Comment after comment of vile rhetoric under any news article that talks about the Bibas family. Since 7th October not one comment about Hamas! It's like a cult! Compassion shouldn't just be limited to one race or religion! You can condemn both EDF and Hamas but they won't!

Scirocco · 21/02/2025 00:03

Well, Hamas, PIJ, et al had already hit rock bottom in my estimation long ago, but this is a new low, even for them.

EllaDisenchanted · 21/02/2025 00:01

The pro Palestinians I’ve seen condemning /acknowledging today so far have been actual Palestinians (peace activists), not westerners (on x) . Could be my algorithms but I doubt it.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 00:01

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They say it's not a religious war, so why should they worry?

RubyWinehouse · 21/02/2025 00:00

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So not do

RubyWinehouse · 20/02/2025 23:59

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BaMamma · 20/02/2025 23:55

RubyWinehouse · 20/02/2025 23:54

Yet every weekend we see pro hamas supporters marching around our cities

Useful idiots.

EllaDisenchanted · 20/02/2025 23:55

I’m mostly angry with people and groups like Albanese and Gutierrez, and UNICEF.

RubyWinehouse · 20/02/2025 23:54

Yet every weekend we see pro hamas supporters marching around our cities

EllaDisenchanted · 20/02/2025 23:51

sittingwaitingtables · 20/02/2025 23:44

@yummyscummymummy01 why do we never hear any pro Palestinians condemn Hamas? I never hear it? All I hear is that they have silence for any of the atrocities that Hamas has committed, including their disgusting display they put on for the young victims of 7th October today.

I’m absolutely sickened by today, by the attempted bombing, the ‘show’, the locked coffins, the propaganda, international ‘human rights’ groups silence, and now this. But to be fair, I have also read pro Palestinians who have called out today’s grotesque acts, and shown solidarity and respect. Not as many as I’d hoped but some.

sittingwaitingtables · 20/02/2025 23:44

@yummyscummymummy01 why do we never hear any pro Palestinians condemn Hamas? I never hear it? All I hear is that they have silence for any of the atrocities that Hamas has committed, including their disgusting display they put on for the young victims of 7th October today.