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Hamas to release the bodies of the Bibas mother and children [Title edited by MNHQ]

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:24

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/middleeast/hamas-israel-hostages-to-release-bibas-family-intl/index.html

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FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 12:14

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 11:06

I feel the same. I'm just an old lefty, a Labour supporter whose been on umpteen protest and peace marches over the years, but this is something else. Now I've fallen out with friends over the issue, like you say.

I think it really separates the critical thinkers from the righteous virtue signalling mob tbh.

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 11:06

myplace · 21/02/2025 11:02

It’s bewildering. It’s like the world has gone collectively mad. People- friends- who I can’t discuss things with because they have sort of jelled their belief and their arguments and aren’t prepared to engage in anything other than reciting slogans.

I feel the same. I'm just an old lefty, a Labour supporter whose been on umpteen protest and peace marches over the years, but this is something else. Now I've fallen out with friends over the issue, like you say.

inamarina · 21/02/2025 11:05

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 10:49

I’m not even sure anymore tbh.
After seeing that clip the other week of the two nurses in Australia smiling and threatening their Jewish patients it’s hard to tell whether people are trying to provoke or whether they just speak their mind because they’ve somehow come to believe that their views are perfectly acceptable.

And they got universally defended! In fact, many managed to shoehorn blaming "Zionists" for it, saying they were tricked or goaded into it.
I think people globally feel complete impunity now to say whatever antisemitic bile pops into their tiny brains.

The attempts to claim the nurses were somehow tricked into saying what they said were absolutely ridiculous.
Same as their subsequent drama about having panic attacks and being rushed to the hospital. Absolutely pathetic.

myplace · 21/02/2025 11:02

It’s bewildering. It’s like the world has gone collectively mad. People- friends- who I can’t discuss things with because they have sort of jelled their belief and their arguments and aren’t prepared to engage in anything other than reciting slogans.

VolcanoJapan · 21/02/2025 10:54

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 10:54

I do wonder about some of the western women on the marches, and the gay people. What do they think their lives would be like under Hamas?

I don't think 'thinking skills' comes out too high.

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RominaDina · 21/02/2025 10:54

I do wonder about some of the western women on the marches, and the gay people. What do they think their lives would be like under Hamas?

VolcanoJapan · 21/02/2025 10:52

inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:49

It’s child abuse, plain and simple.

Supported by useful idiots in the west on their marches with their silly 'ditties' Houthis Houthis make us proud, turn another ship around Intifada revolution, etc.... the mass support for terrorism in plain sight.

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inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:49

VolcanoJapan · 21/02/2025 10:48

The indoctrination of children so they think slaughtering others, raping and kidnap and murder names their birthday special.

Hamas must not stay for the sake of everyone.

It’s child abuse, plain and simple.

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 10:49

I’m not even sure anymore tbh.
After seeing that clip the other week of the two nurses in Australia smiling and threatening their Jewish patients it’s hard to tell whether people are trying to provoke or whether they just speak their mind because they’ve somehow come to believe that their views are perfectly acceptable.

And they got universally defended! In fact, many managed to shoehorn blaming "Zionists" for it, saying they were tricked or goaded into it.
I think people globally feel complete impunity now to say whatever antisemitic bile pops into their tiny brains.

VolcanoJapan · 21/02/2025 10:48

inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:01

The indoctrination of children so they think slaughtering others, raping and kidnap and murder names their birthday special.

Hamas must not stay for the sake of everyone.

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inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:48

Dandeliontea123 · 21/02/2025 10:18

I saw a Hamas spokesperson being interviewed on the news shortly after Oct 7. He promised that no harm would come to any of the hostages. That was already a lie. They don't care about or respect their own people but they frame it as 'resistance'. It is sickening.

The mind-boggling thing is that quite a few people in the West choose to believe them.
Terrorists who raped, tortured and murdered over a thousand people on October 7th say they won’t mistreat their hostages - well, that must be true!
It’s like when people said: ‘Look, the female hostages were smiling and waving upon their release, they must have been treated well!’
Never mind that one of them had two fingers missing and another a bullet stuck in her leg, not to mention the psychological trauma.

FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 10:40

Firealarm1414 · 21/02/2025 07:25

Also, the fact that the red cross didn't do its job with regards to the hostages in the first place and is now participating in these disgusting celebrations of dead and starving jews is absolutely shocking and sickening. Why is this not being discussed in the media?

Say what you like about GB News they are the only news outlet to be discussing the truth of what is happening out there.

I weep for that poor woman and her babies. Hamas needs to be taken out once and for all.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/02/2025 10:40

inamarina · 21/02/2025 09:29

Also not Jewish but have watched in absolute bafflement since 7th October.

Same here. What also baffles me is how many women seem to happily participate in displays of this mindless hatred towards Jews.
I’ve seen footage of women handing out sweets in street celebrations right after October 7th and of women ripping down hostage posters.
Then women like that student Dana Abu Qamar who said that October 7th was a ‘once in a lifetime experience’ and how it made her ‘full of joy’.
Yesterday, as Hamas was parading around the bodies of innocent hostages, there were pictures of women chatting and smiling, looking all happy and relaxed as if they were just having a picnic with their mates.
People tend to say ‘it’s always men’, but just look at these women cheering the violent men on.

There have always been women like this.

Modern day tricoteuses.

inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:36

dairydebris · 21/02/2025 10:03

This has got to be a rage bait post surely?!

I’m not even sure anymore tbh.
After seeing that clip the other week of the two nurses in Australia smiling and threatening their Jewish patients it’s hard to tell whether people are trying to provoke or whether they just speak their mind because they’ve somehow come to believe that their views are perfectly acceptable.

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 10:33

Yes - there was a thread on the way some people/ countries tried to use Holocaust Memorial Day to criticise Israel. Dreadful.

Ireland was particularly egrerious, unfortunately.

ThePartingOfTheWays · 21/02/2025 10:29

inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:02

I agree. I also doubt Hamas cares about the dead woman’s family.

Yes, it's a useful example of the low regard Hamas have for fellow Palestinians.

OpheliaWasntMad · 21/02/2025 10:26

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 09:26

@verysmellyjelly you make some good points, and I was very uncomfortable with aspects Holocaust Memorial Day this year. It's been used for other purposes, which worries me.

Yes - there was a thread on the way some people/ countries tried to use Holocaust Memorial Day to criticise Israel. Dreadful.

Dandeliontea123 · 21/02/2025 10:18

I saw a Hamas spokesperson being interviewed on the news shortly after Oct 7. He promised that no harm would come to any of the hostages. That was already a lie. They don't care about or respect their own people but they frame it as 'resistance'. It is sickening.

dairydebris · 21/02/2025 10:03

inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:01

This has got to be a rage bait post surely?!

inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:02

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 09:58

As for the poor woman whose body it is? Why was the mistake made, what about her family?

I think the chances of this being a mistake are extremely slim.

I agree. I also doubt Hamas cares about the dead woman’s family.

inamarina · 21/02/2025 10:01

Another friendly face:
https://x.com/GAZAWOOD1/status/1892863294215458953

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 21/02/2025 10:00

StepawayfromtheLindors · 21/02/2025 09:39

Why didn’t they transport the medication? Is it because they have to be strictly neutral politically even when it means ordinary citizens will suffer?

I do not know the details of this but surely giving medication to hostages is not breaking political neutrality? In what world is that ‘taking sides’?
i am baffled that this could be considered not being politically neutral. It is the very definition of it.

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 09:58

As for the poor woman whose body it is? Why was the mistake made, what about her family?

I think the chances of this being a mistake are extremely slim.

StepawayfromtheLindors · 21/02/2025 09:39

Why didn’t they transport the medication? Is it because they have to be strictly neutral politically even when it means ordinary citizens will suffer?

inamarina · 21/02/2025 09:37

EllaDisenchanted · 21/02/2025 08:58

There’s a video from months ago early in the war when they met with Netanyahu and he basically begged them to say something or just try and they basically completely refused to do or say anything. He had the medications for the hostages and said Hamas wont take them but they could replicate them, they have a list of the medications, why not try. And they just stonewalled him.
I knew the Red Cross had been complicit in the holocaust in covering up the concentration camps, but I had thought that was in the past. This was the final end for any trust/belief I had left in these humanitarian organisations. I’ll believe in the goodness of individual people, but the organisations are rotten.

from 2 mins in

Thank you for the link. It’s so heartbreaking.