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Hamas to release the bodies of the Bibas mother and children [Title edited by MNHQ]

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:24

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/middleeast/hamas-israel-hostages-to-release-bibas-family-intl/index.html

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ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 17:09

This. I sincerely hope they were killed in a strike, quickly and very soon after their kidnapping.

Unfortunately it is confirmed that they were not.

TheSidewinderSleepsTonite · 21/02/2025 17:02

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

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I feel the same. Sadly with everything that's coming out about her beautiful boys, I can't imagine the pain hearing it if she were still alive. It would be unbearable.
My boys are 4.5 and 2, and even the thought is too much.
I have thought about Yarden a lot today. I hope he has his family around him constantly.

Wildflowers99 · 21/02/2025 16:57

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

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This. I sincerely hope they were killed in a strike, quickly and very soon after their kidnapping. Even saying that feels awful, but the prospect of her being separated from her babies who were horrifically murdered is so dark and indescribably awful that as a mother I would prefer the first scenario. I’m trying very hard not to think about it too much as it gives me actual pain in my chest to think of what they went through.

OpheliaWasntMad · 21/02/2025 16:53

inamarina · 21/02/2025 14:49

Here is an official statement about the Bibas children:

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1892941383083622591

Absolutely sickening.

This is so horrific .

TwiceForLunch · 21/02/2025 16:35

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

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My only sense of hope (which is not the right word of course) yesterday is that she may have been with them holding them and comforting them when they all died together. All the horrific alternatives to this are playing out in my mind and it's too much to bear.

I cannot stand the vicious, lumpen unbelievably thick stupidity of the useful idiots of the west supporting Hamas. And don't get me started on the BBc refusing to call them terrorists.

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 21/02/2025 14:37

There's a lot of speculation that Shiri was split up from the boys after the kidnapping which gives me a glimmer of hope that Shiri could still be alive.

I truly hope she comes home alive and her and Yarden can find some peace. My heart completely breaks for them🧡

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 15:41

Is that X account reliable and accurate? I know there has been so much propaganda it’s hard to know what to believe.

That is the official IDF English X account - you can see it's a verified official organisation by the grey check.

myplace · 21/02/2025 15:38

It has been hard to know who to believe, with aid workers and journalists being restricted to the area. It has felt as though there was no onlooker to verify what was happening. But, how can you be an unbiased onlooker anyway after the brutality of October 7th and the terrorists own videos condemning them and the civilians that support them.

I believe Hammas infiltrated or successfully manipulated journalism and aid and the UN peacekeeping force. I believe they used the entire population of Gaza as human shields, and allowed the innocent to starve while feeding and protecting their own.

I just don’t take every post at face value without checking with people who know more than me. The disinformation campaign has been brutal.

I wonder if we will ever know what happened to their poor mother, it doesn’t bear thinking about.

HermioneWeasley · 21/02/2025 15:29

BooToYouHalloween · 21/02/2025 14:56

It’s the official account of the IDF. The full statement also included this:

”We have shared these findings, intelligence, and forensics with our partners around the world so they can verify it.”

Since we know Jews are never believed.

Same as they had to share the appalling details of the savagery of the hamas violence on 7th October because people would rather take the word of terrorists who filmed themselves massacring civilians, than believe Jews.

these are very dark days

BooToYouHalloween · 21/02/2025 14:56

myplace · 21/02/2025 14:39

I haven’t followed closely, or researched, so rely on other people’s understanding.

Is that X account reliable and accurate? I know there has been so much propaganda it’s hard to know what to believe.

To be clear- Hammas are murderous animals and video makes it all too clear they are widely supported by ‘civilians’.

But is this X account truthful?

Those poor babies.

It’s the official account of the IDF. The full statement also included this:

”We have shared these findings, intelligence, and forensics with our partners around the world so they can verify it.”

Since we know Jews are never believed.

inamarina · 21/02/2025 14:49

Here is an official statement about the Bibas children:

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1892941383083622591

Absolutely sickening.

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 14:42

I don't know, @myplace , but the remains have been examined by forensic experts, who are (as I understand it) very noted and trustworthy. I suspect they will share details of their findings and will have to use supporting evidence.

myplace · 21/02/2025 14:39

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 14:27

Unsurpringly, it turns out Hamas lied about the children being killed in an airstrike, as confirmed by the IDF. They were murdered.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1892938062730055854

I haven’t followed closely, or researched, so rely on other people’s understanding.

Is that X account reliable and accurate? I know there has been so much propaganda it’s hard to know what to believe.

To be clear- Hammas are murderous animals and video makes it all too clear they are widely supported by ‘civilians’.

But is this X account truthful?

Those poor babies.

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 21/02/2025 14:37

There's a lot of speculation that Shiri was split up from the boys after the kidnapping which gives me a glimmer of hope that Shiri could still be alive.

I truly hope she comes home alive and her and Yarden can find some peace. My heart completely breaks for them🧡

FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 14:37

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 14:32

Dear lord. Just when you think it couldn't get worse. Hamas are determined to break the ceasefire, aren't they? They cannot bear for there to be a peaceful agreement with Israel.

They don’t want peace. All they know is evil, hatred and fighting, take that away and what is left?

FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 14:35

inamarina · 21/02/2025 14:30

Murdered with bare hands. And then those monsters tried to lie about an air strike. Evil, evil monsters.

Omg, that poor poor woman having to see that and not being able to protect her babies 😔

There’s a special place in hell for those monsters.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 21/02/2025 14:34

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 14:27

Unsurpringly, it turns out Hamas lied about the children being killed in an airstrike, as confirmed by the IDF. They were murdered.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1892938062730055854

And makes you wonder what they did to the boys poor mum. And why they wouldn't give over her body.

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 14:32

inamarina · 21/02/2025 14:30

Murdered with bare hands. And then those monsters tried to lie about an air strike. Evil, evil monsters.

Dear lord. Just when you think it couldn't get worse. Hamas are determined to break the ceasefire, aren't they? They cannot bear for there to be a peaceful agreement with Israel.

StepawayfromtheLindors · 21/02/2025 14:31

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 10:54

I do wonder about some of the western women on the marches, and the gay people. What do they think their lives would be like under Hamas?

🤦‍♀️ agree

inamarina · 21/02/2025 14:30

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 14:27

Unsurpringly, it turns out Hamas lied about the children being killed in an airstrike, as confirmed by the IDF. They were murdered.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1892938062730055854

Murdered with bare hands. And then those monsters tried to lie about an air strike. Evil, evil monsters.

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 14:27

Unsurpringly, it turns out Hamas lied about the children being killed in an airstrike, as confirmed by the IDF. They were murdered.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1892938062730055854

AngryLikeHades · 21/02/2025 14:21

How did they keep the bodies?
It's a desperately sad situation and the people jeering and taking pictures/videos with their phones are inhuman. So, so sad. RIP 💐

VolcanoJapan · 21/02/2025 13:10

FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 12:35

They don’t even bother doing a quick google search either. I mean if you were waving that placard the first thing you’d do is look up what it meant. Idiots. But fucking dangerous idiots at that.

💯

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FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 12:35

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 12:18

I agree, @FairyBlueEyes - but not just that - I have colleagues who think that Israel took over Gaza in 1948, and have no idea about Egypt's role. When I've asked about the River to the Sea, they've no idea which river or which sea.
Useful idiots.

They don’t even bother doing a quick google search either. I mean if you were waving that placard the first thing you’d do is look up what it meant. Idiots. But fucking dangerous idiots at that.

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 12:18

I agree, @FairyBlueEyes - but not just that - I have colleagues who think that Israel took over Gaza in 1948, and have no idea about Egypt's role. When I've asked about the River to the Sea, they've no idea which river or which sea.
Useful idiots.