Page 14 | Hamas to release the bodies of the Bibas mother and children [Title edited by MNHQ]

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 19:43

upinaballoon · 18/02/2025 19:36

This is technical and I don't want to offend but I wonder for how long and in what conditions the bodies have been kept. I guess DNA tests can be made. I know someone earlier has wondered if it would be possible to work out the causes of death.

Thursday? IF they release them.

I don't really know but I imagine an autopsy as in any unexplained death.

Poor Yarden, he's been through so much having only recently been released himself.

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yumyum33 · 18/02/2025 19:41

Yogre · 18/02/2025 19:05

Horrendous. No better than animals.

This. Why some people defend Hamas I don't get for a minute.

FairyBlueEyes · 18/02/2025 19:39

upinaballoon · 18/02/2025 19:36

This is technical and I don't want to offend but I wonder for how long and in what conditions the bodies have been kept. I guess DNA tests can be made. I know someone earlier has wondered if it would be possible to work out the causes of death.

Thursday? IF they release them.

I’ve thought the same thing 😔

upinaballoon · 18/02/2025 19:36

This is technical and I don't want to offend but I wonder for how long and in what conditions the bodies have been kept. I guess DNA tests can be made. I know someone earlier has wondered if it would be possible to work out the causes of death.

Thursday? IF they release them.

TheSidewinderSleepsTonite · 18/02/2025 19:33

I know it's incredible unlikely now, but there is a very small part of me hoping Hamas is still lying ☹️

SummerFeverVenice · 18/02/2025 19:13

Craftysue · 18/02/2025 19:10

Heartbreaking news although I would have thought they would have been released earlier if they were still alive. I hope having them back brings some small comfort to their families. Poor little innocents

I agree, I suspect they were killed before the November 2023 ceasefire otherwise I do feel that they’d have been released with the other children.

Craftysue · 18/02/2025 19:10

Heartbreaking news although I would have thought they would have been released earlier if they were still alive. I hope having them back brings some small comfort to their families. Poor little innocents

Scirocco · 18/02/2025 19:08

Returni · 18/02/2025 19:01

You can’t control how the thread goes. That’s not how a forum works.

This perhaps isn't the right thread for debates like this - it's a thread about the sad news about the Bibas family.

Not families in general, but this specific family.

It might be best to start a separate thread to discuss the issues you previously raised if you want discussion about them? That way it can be kept separate from this family's grief at this time?

Yogre · 18/02/2025 19:07

Returni · 18/02/2025 19:01

You can’t control how the thread goes. That’s not how a forum works.

No. But I suppose we could always hope that others manage to show just a smidgeon of grace and humanity, no matter what 'side' they sympathise with more.

Then again, it's always good for lurkers to see the kind of barbaric behaviour shown by some.

dairydebris · 18/02/2025 19:06

Returni · 18/02/2025 19:01

You can’t control how the thread goes. That’s not how a forum works.

No, but you could read the fucking room.

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 19:05

Returni · 18/02/2025 19:01

You can’t control how the thread goes. That’s not how a forum works.

Thankfully your awful post has been removed. Have you not considered how you are being insensitive. You could start a thread on what you'd prefer to talk about? It's easy enough to do.

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Yogre · 18/02/2025 19:05

Horrendous. No better than animals.

FairyBlueEyes · 18/02/2025 19:03

Absolute fuckers.

SummerFeverVenice · 18/02/2025 19:02

oakleaffy · 18/02/2025 18:55

Will anyone know the real truth?
It’s tragic that civilians are embroiled in this never ending war between Israel and Palestine.

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This may be too clinical for this thread, but hopefully there will be enough for a forensic pathologist to determine cause of death and answer these questions. It must be hell to not know how they died and the hope is it was instantaneous with no suffering. If it was in November 2023, then at least they didn’t suffer 15 months of torture. I know that’s a pitiful consolation but if it were my kids I’d want to know everything I could and have them back with me to bury and grieve.

Returni · 18/02/2025 19:01

You can’t control how the thread goes. That’s not how a forum works.

BooToYouHalloween · 18/02/2025 18:57

I will report anyone who comes on this thread and tries to equivocate or turn this into a debate about the wider conflict. Show some bloody respect.

BooToYouHalloween · 18/02/2025 18:56

oakleaffy · 18/02/2025 18:55

Will anyone know the real truth?
It’s tragic that civilians are embroiled in this never ending war between Israel and Palestine.

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Considering one of the released female hostages was forced to participate in a hostage video that showed her to be dead - also due to “Israeli air strikes” - you can pretty much guarantee anything Hamas says is a lie.

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oakleaffy · 18/02/2025 18:55

SummerFeverVenice · 18/02/2025 18:41

Hamas had told the world they’d been killed in an Israeli airstrike in November 2023. It was thought Hamas were lying as psychological torture propaganda, but I suppose they weren’t lying after all about them dying. It’s absolutely tragic when children are killed.

https://www.jta.org/2025/02/18/israel/hamas-official-says-bodies-of-bibas-family-will-return-to-israel-on-thursday

Will anyone know the real truth?
It’s tragic that civilians are embroiled in this never ending war between Israel and Palestine.

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:54

Your second example "The body of 21-year-old Anas Hammad was also returned last week. Israeli troops shot and killed him after he rammed his car into soldiers patrolling his West Bank town of Silwad, near Ramallah. Several Israeli soldiers were wounded."

Seriously can you start a thread about terrorist bodies buried or held on morgue and not share terrorist stories on this thread!

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oakleaffy · 18/02/2025 18:52

That’s awful.
I read that Hamas don’t like children as hostages and are far more likely to be violent with them because they cry and make noise when hungry, frightened and distressed.
Adults can control their emotions more.

Crying Children can give away hostage location-

It’s so very barbaric-

Both sides have done terrible cruelties to each other, and just cannot see an end to it.

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:51

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Please don't compare the keeping of hostages taken from Israel to that of a failed terrorist as in your first example.

"Since 2016, Israeli authorities have held Abed’s corpse in postmortem detention after Abed orchestrated a bus bombing in Jerusalem" that's the first link. He dead after carrying out a bys bombing. Good grief, have you no understanding of the vast difference of a adult male terrorist to a family taken hostage.

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rubyslippers · 18/02/2025 18:43

BaMamma · 18/02/2025 18:42

They kept them as bargaining chips and to cause psychological and emotional damage.

It’s what they do.

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The hostages were H&mas had
they have used them dead or alive and tortured them and their families for 500 days

BaMamma · 18/02/2025 18:42

Hedjwitch · 18/02/2025 18:39

Not only did they slaughter these innocents,but they kept the bodies. Why? Where?
Sick,murderous bastards

They kept them as bargaining chips and to cause psychological and emotional damage.

It’s what they do.