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To think Trump is unhinged

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Loveumagenta · 05/02/2025 08:16

As well as dangerous? He wants to help the Israelis in their ethnic cleansing of Gaza and own it so he can turn it into a holiday destination with the Palestinians packed off somewhere.

His greed really knows no bounds.

YABU - it’s a great idea, can’t wait to go to the new ‘riviera’!

YANBU - his threats to other countries and dangerous for the world.

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Goldfsh · 05/02/2025 09:18

Honestly, I couldn't believe it when I woke up this morning and saw the headlines. Gaza as an American beach resort?

I think there's a really high risk he'll get threatened militarily by China at this point, and then just unleash nuclear weapons to obliterate half the world.

nooooname · 05/02/2025 09:17

Hopefully he is just setting the cat amongst the pigeons and it's the starting point of various Arab nations negotiating for a better outcome. The alternative doesn't bear thinking about...

RayonSunrise · 05/02/2025 09:17

Ilovemytulips · 05/02/2025 09:07

I was wondering if he is just treating this like he does a business deal. Suggest something so outlandish so in the end they are forced to settle for something a little less outlandish. But not what they would have agreed to outright at the start?

Yep. Unfortunately it doesn't translate so well in international diplomacy. Being an unhinged corporate real estate developer is one thing, being an unhinged state is quite another. You can see the American sphere of influence dwindling practically by the day, and he's barely started.

Worldinyourhands · 05/02/2025 09:17

Honestly when the US voted this clown in again I just decided to disengage. Couldn't tell you what he's saying or doing (beyond the OP in this thread) and not giving it any headspace. I have zero control over him - but this is what the US wanted and voted in (a second time) so they can crack on.

TroysMammy · 05/02/2025 09:12

My partner thinks this is the scenario for these ridiculous outbursts.

"Good morning Mr President. What did you dream about last night?"
"Well, I dreamt about Greenland and it being near America we could have it"
"Good idea Mr President, we'll put a bid in for Greenland."

"Good morning Mr President, what did you dream about last night? "
Insert yet another ludicrous idea and response et al.

Annoyeddd · 05/02/2025 09:12

He is planning on sacking/making redundant/buying out most of the US civil service so there will be no one left to run the schools, Medicaid, Medicare, pensions, social security etc. so basically the poorer parts of society will have to fend for themselves.

Loveumagenta · 05/02/2025 09:11

RingoJuice · 05/02/2025 09:05

So I’m a Trump voter.

Not a huge fan of this one tbh but willing to see where it goes.

After all, it’s a starting point for negotiations.

It would be better tbh if an Arab state like Saudi or UAE managed this. No way can a Maghreb state like Jordan or Lebanon handle any more Palestinian refugees nor should they suffer any more as they’ve a bad history wrt Palestinian refugees.

Negotiations over what exactly? Forcing the Palestinians out of their land altogether to foreign countries?
And the idea that Gaza becomes a US territory of some sort and turned into a holiday resort, that sounds good to you?

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ARainyNightInSoho · 05/02/2025 09:11

Clanke · 05/02/2025 08:44

Trump is not like other politicians, who have a professional, middle class approach. He talks like a guy in a bar but he’s not ‘mad’. You have to remember that 90% of what he says will not come to pass. If you concentrate on what he actually does and not what he says, you will be less depressed.

Not any bars I go to

Whoarethoseguys · 05/02/2025 09:10

Boredlass · 05/02/2025 08:22

All these Trump posts are unhinged. Is this going to be constant for the next four years? I have no idea what’s happening with him as he’s easy to ignore but the world didn’t end when he was president previously so why the panic now? Stop reading about him, it’ll help your mental health

Because he is dangerous! Burying your head in the sand won't make him go away

mitogoshigg · 05/02/2025 09:09

Completely!

I think the European leaders are completely bemused by this latest craziness, not a squeak from any of them yet, I suspect there's high profile meetings ongoing at the moment

Loveumagenta · 05/02/2025 09:09

user2155340308842 · 05/02/2025 09:01

I'm American and I'm genuinely terrified.

The things he's doing aren't going to make America richer, although they may benefit a few. They are, overall, going to make it poorer, sicker, less safe and less educated, and that's just a beginning.

No, I don’t think so either. I work with a lot of Americans and the first thing I thought for all these government employees his firing at will or threatening to make redundant was - what about their healthcare?
They and their families rely on work for their medical coverage. No job, no healthcare.

I can’t see how any of this will benefit most Americans. Food prices will go up, again. Last time I was over I couldn’t believe the cost of fresh fruit and veg and decent meat - my jnlaws are spending a fortune on fresh food. The crap food - the giant sized processed stuff is still cheap, but not the healthiest foods.
And as for Trump saying Europe doesn’t take enough of US ‘farm’ stuff. Why would we?
We have higher welfare and food standards, and many people are worried about the food miles of their groceries. I want to eat chicken fresh sourced from our county, or at least country, not one that’s full of preservatives and shipped from Ohio.

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Ilovemytulips · 05/02/2025 09:07

I was wondering if he is just treating this like he does a business deal. Suggest something so outlandish so in the end they are forced to settle for something a little less outlandish. But not what they would have agreed to outright at the start?

SoupDragon · 05/02/2025 09:07

Often I don't think the things done by the people in power are right but only Trump has ever made me think "WTAF?!"

Whoarethoseguys · 05/02/2025 09:06

XWKD · 05/02/2025 08:18

He's a lunatic and a moron.

I agree but he is also dangerous , a huge hypocrite and not terribly bright. . And this time all his advisors are just as back so not stopping him from carrying out his most bonkers ideas.
He critisises other countries but threatens to take over other countries himself. Making Canada part of the USA and turning Gaza into a holiday resort!
And he says the UK is out of line and critisises Europe for not buying enough from the USA as if it was compulsory to buy things from them !
He sounds like a dictator .
And yet the likes of Reform still think he is wonderful. I just hope people wake up soon.

user2155340308842 · 05/02/2025 09:06

StandFirm · 05/02/2025 09:03

I am not American but I genuinely love your country and it hurts to see what's going on. You have my sympathy.

Thank you, much appreciated 😊

It's not just the US, though. Things like kneecapping the FBI, cutting USAID/PEPFAR (which right now, promote democracy and fight things like Ebola and HIV mutating into even more dangerous forms), pulling out of the UN Human Rights Council, NATO and the WHO are, unfortunately, going to affect the rest of the world as well.

MintTwirl · 05/02/2025 09:05

I am finding him more frightening and sinister this time around and we’re only a couple of weeks in.

RingoJuice · 05/02/2025 09:05

So I’m a Trump voter.

Not a huge fan of this one tbh but willing to see where it goes.

After all, it’s a starting point for negotiations.

It would be better tbh if an Arab state like Saudi or UAE managed this. No way can a Maghreb state like Jordan or Lebanon handle any more Palestinian refugees nor should they suffer any more as they’ve a bad history wrt Palestinian refugees.

RayonSunrise · 05/02/2025 09:05

Boredlass · 05/02/2025 08:22

All these Trump posts are unhinged. Is this going to be constant for the next four years? I have no idea what’s happening with him as he’s easy to ignore but the world didn’t end when he was president previously so why the panic now? Stop reading about him, it’ll help your mental health

Sure, just ignore everything the President says. Seems like a great idea. Maybe all news and foreign policy should be based on believing the USA is insane and should be ignored.

username299 · 05/02/2025 09:04

Musk has proposed that they remove all government regulations.

I'm counting down the days until this band of morons are ousted.

Newbutoldfather · 05/02/2025 09:04

@Havanananana ,

I disagree. I think Trump is very much in charge and his appointment of useful idiots (RFK, Hegseth etc) demonstrate it.

They are all pretty flawed characters and serve as long as they don’t step out of line. They will be fired if they disagree with Trump, in two seconds flat.

If you look at how Putin behaved when he first took power, Trump is very similar, except moving even faster. People thought that Putin was a weak president, a puppet of the oligarchs. He pretty soon showed he was the polar opposite.

StandFirm · 05/02/2025 09:03

user2155340308842 · 05/02/2025 09:01

I'm American and I'm genuinely terrified.

The things he's doing aren't going to make America richer, although they may benefit a few. They are, overall, going to make it poorer, sicker, less safe and less educated, and that's just a beginning.

I am not American but I genuinely love your country and it hurts to see what's going on. You have my sympathy.

TemporaryPosition · 05/02/2025 09:02

Havanananana · 05/02/2025 09:00

He's not surrounded by "sane people" though, is he?

There is a group of people - Musk, Witkoff, Kushner, Rubio and others - who are the real nasties behind what is happening in the White House. Trump is just the front man who believes what they tell him and will say whatever stupid ideas that they put in front of him. See also R.F.Kennedy Jr - another bumbling idiot who can barely string together a coherent sentence but who is in line to be in charge of healthcare.

But you were happy with Fauci I'm sure

Phthia · 05/02/2025 09:02

It concerns me that this really could end up in civil war in the US. At some point a sizeable portion of the populace is going to decide it won't stand for his policies any more, and/or the military will revolt against invading other countries for no reason other than to satisfy Trump's megalomania. Especially if or when he goes for a third term.

TemporaryPosition · 05/02/2025 09:01

Clanke · 05/02/2025 08:44

Trump is not like other politicians, who have a professional, middle class approach. He talks like a guy in a bar but he’s not ‘mad’. You have to remember that 90% of what he says will not come to pass. If you concentrate on what he actually does and not what he says, you will be less depressed.

Quite. The wailing and gnashing is what has put him where he is, he winds people up so they end up looking madder than him

Ilovemytulips · 05/02/2025 09:01

Havanananana · 05/02/2025 09:00

He's not surrounded by "sane people" though, is he?

There is a group of people - Musk, Witkoff, Kushner, Rubio and others - who are the real nasties behind what is happening in the White House. Trump is just the front man who believes what they tell him and will say whatever stupid ideas that they put in front of him. See also R.F.Kennedy Jr - another bumbling idiot who can barely string together a coherent sentence but who is in line to be in charge of healthcare.

I think you are right there.