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IdahoGal · 11/02/2025 19:22

DeepFatFried · 26/01/2025 17:42

So the man who is determined to stop each and every immigrant into his own country expects a selection of other countries to open their borders to ‘cleared out’ Palestinians?

The US currently is estimated to have 13.7 MILLION illegal aliens (more than the population of Israel). The entire population of the Gaza strip was estimated to be 2.142 million. Can you see no difference?

And Trump wants to stop illegal immigration, not legal immigration. I'm not sure why anyone is in favor of illegal immigration. Look up your own laws - Great Britain doesn't allow unfettered illegal immigration. Why should the US?

EasterIssland · 11/02/2025 19:19

Bbc

Regarding Jordan

Some more now from the news briefing by Jordan's King Abdullah and President Trump.
King Abdullah announced a plan to resettle ill children to Jordan in a move welcomed by Trump.
"One of the things that we can do right away is take 2,000 children that are either cancer children or in very ill state to Jordan as quickly as possible," King Abdullah says.
"Two thousand children with cancer or other problems, that's really a beautiful gesture, that's really good and we appreciate it," Trump says.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 11/02/2025 19:08

Also, of course, nothing pleases him more than acting the strong man. A trait common to pussy grabbers everywhere.

Martymcfly24 · 11/02/2025 19:06

You took the words out of my mouth @jumperround he only sees rich white American men as actual people, couldn't give a feck about anyone else .

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 11/02/2025 19:05

He and Netanyahu makes pair, I'd say. Both right wing; both total arseholes. Trump has no notion of rule of law, he can't be consistent, and he's unable to use diplomacy. On top of which, often his most outrageous statements are a poorly conceived negotiating tactic.

jumperround · 11/02/2025 19:03

Liv999 · 11/02/2025 18:49

Trump is a complete hypocrite

Yep! A huge, raving liar and a fascist.

Liv999 · 11/02/2025 18:49

Adropinthepond · 11/02/2025 18:46

I find it quite hypocritical of Trump that he expects other countries to take in migrants considering his own drastic policies in the US.

Trump is a complete hypocrite

Adropinthepond · 11/02/2025 18:46

gloriagloria · 11/02/2025 18:37

It is. Their health system is already beyond breaking point. I hope they get financial support. I understand that Trump is threatening to withdraw aid if they don't comply with his demands, which will make their position untenable with over 800,000 Syrian refugees and many others from previous conflicts.

I find it quite hypocritical of Trump that he expects other countries to take in migrants considering his own drastic policies in the US.

VolcanoJapan · 11/02/2025 18:42

Adropinthepond · 11/02/2025 18:22

Jordan has just announced they will take in two thousand sick Palestinian children for treatment and Trump seems happy with that.
It's incredibly generous for Jordan to offer this to children who desperately need urgent medical aid. It doesn't mention if those children and their families will be allowed to return to Gaza If they wish to do so.

Well done. That's great

gloriagloria · 11/02/2025 18:37

Adropinthepond · 11/02/2025 18:22

Jordan has just announced they will take in two thousand sick Palestinian children for treatment and Trump seems happy with that.
It's incredibly generous for Jordan to offer this to children who desperately need urgent medical aid. It doesn't mention if those children and their families will be allowed to return to Gaza If they wish to do so.

It is. Their health system is already beyond breaking point. I hope they get financial support. I understand that Trump is threatening to withdraw aid if they don't comply with his demands, which will make their position untenable with over 800,000 Syrian refugees and many others from previous conflicts.

Adropinthepond · 11/02/2025 18:22

Jordan has just announced they will take in two thousand sick Palestinian children for treatment and Trump seems happy with that.
It's incredibly generous for Jordan to offer this to children who desperately need urgent medical aid. It doesn't mention if those children and their families will be allowed to return to Gaza If they wish to do so.

MangoAndMelon · 11/02/2025 18:11

it's going to be interesting to see the result of the meeting at the white house. If Jordan was completely aghast at the idea of hosting more Palestinians the King wouldn't be in Washington.

There are other topics to discuss such as USAID and continuing local security cooperation.
As far as I understand the "resettling" is really out of question. They had pritests about it and Parliament is working on preventing it.

stanleypops66 · 11/02/2025 17:53

Yes. It would have been great for the nationalist communities in the north if there were laws against state sanctioned violence and murder too, or even consequences after the fact, but there's been very little of that.

Exactly if people played fair, especially those who are government sanctioned and are meant to live by the rule of law, maybe others would follow. The British army were ruthless (as were other illegal armies). Just last week in NI there was a big court case where the British army were found to have acted illegally after a killing over 30 years ago. That's just one of many many more. The government's of any country try need to act legitimately and to a higher standard.

Adropinthepond · 11/02/2025 17:44

mollyfolk · 11/02/2025 17:42

Sounds like a lovely voluntary resettlement program is planned.

Exactly.

Adropinthepond · 11/02/2025 17:43

Israel generally have a tolerable relationship with Jordan and Egypt. It wouldn't be a wise move to break this by forcing them to take part in their ethnic cleansing plans.

Adropinthepond · 11/02/2025 17:42

mids2019 · 11/02/2025 17:24

If Israel isn't paying for the reconstruction who will be? Arab states.....they don't have enough money in a lot of cases and it will take pursuasion to get the oil rich states to cough up. If Hamas remain in charge funders may be inadvertently funding terrorism.is

it's going to be interesting to see the result of the meeting at the white house. If Jordan was completely aghast at the idea of hosting more Palestinians the King wouldn't be in Washington.

Jordan is not going to agree to ethnically cleanse Palestinians. As a small country they have done their fair share in taking in refugees from surrounding countries.

mollyfolk · 11/02/2025 17:42

EasterIssland · 11/02/2025 17:15

The response must be exactly as President Trump has suggested: completely halt humanitarian aid, cut off electricity, water, and communications, and use brutal and disproportionate force until the abductees return. At the same time, clear Gaza of all “uninvolved.” The immigration plan must begin immediately. It is time to open the gates of hell on Hamas – and this time, without any restrictions on our heroic fighters.

Israel’s communications minister, Shlomo Karhi

https://x.com/shlomo_karhi/status/1889259733200052579

Sounds like a lovely voluntary resettlement program is planned.

Liv999 · 11/02/2025 17:25

@SharonEllis And who do you think enabled and approved Qatar funding Hamas?Yep, Israel.

mids2019 · 11/02/2025 17:24

If Israel isn't paying for the reconstruction who will be? Arab states.....they don't have enough money in a lot of cases and it will take pursuasion to get the oil rich states to cough up. If Hamas remain in charge funders may be inadvertently funding terrorism.is

it's going to be interesting to see the result of the meeting at the white house. If Jordan was completely aghast at the idea of hosting more Palestinians the King wouldn't be in Washington.

SharonEllis · 11/02/2025 17:17

Lalaloveya · 11/02/2025 17:04

Because they razed it to the ground, targeting civilians, whilst trapping them there and cutting off food, water, aid and most outside communication and help.

Such hyperbole and nonsense. You don't seem to umderstand what happens in wars The damage is extensive, not least because Hamas chose to build a tunnel network under buildings. I've seen masses of communications coming out of gaza. Where have you been?

EasterIssland · 11/02/2025 17:15

The response must be exactly as President Trump has suggested: completely halt humanitarian aid, cut off electricity, water, and communications, and use brutal and disproportionate force until the abductees return. At the same time, clear Gaza of all “uninvolved.” The immigration plan must begin immediately. It is time to open the gates of hell on Hamas – and this time, without any restrictions on our heroic fighters.

Israel’s communications minister, Shlomo Karhi

https://x.com/shlomo_karhi/status/1889259733200052579

SharonEllis · 11/02/2025 17:14

Liv999 · 11/02/2025 17:09

Hamas, Israel and the USA should pay equally, Hamas for starting this, Israel for choosing to keep it going for the next 15 months and USA for providing Israel with the means to blow Gaza into oblivion, it isn't anyone else's responsibility

Iran, Qatar? Who do you think funds Hamas & protects their funds?

Liv999 · 11/02/2025 17:09

Hamas, Israel and the USA should pay equally, Hamas for starting this, Israel for choosing to keep it going for the next 15 months and USA for providing Israel with the means to blow Gaza into oblivion, it isn't anyone else's responsibility

Lalaloveya · 11/02/2025 17:04

SharonEllis · 11/02/2025 16:57

Talk us through why Israel should pay when Hamas started this war, torturing & murdering over 1000 people and taking hostages who they have starved and tortured, and getting a disproportionate number of prisoners in return. They knew exactly what would happen in terms of Israeli retaliation. Because no country would fail to retaliate. And Hamas is a very wealthy organisation which has not only completely failed to protect its population but exploited them for 20 years.

Because they razed it to the ground, targeting civilians, whilst trapping them there and cutting off food, water, aid and most outside communication and help.

SharonEllis · 11/02/2025 16:57

Lalaloveya · 11/02/2025 15:42

The way you ask that makes it sound as though anything other than these fascist ethnic cleansing plans is unreasonable.

I think the people of Gaza should be allowed move back to their homes, which Israel should pay to rebuild (obviously that will never happen but it should) and they should be supported to hold elections and try to piece their destroyed society back together. Maybe there's a role for the PA in this.

Talk us through why Israel should pay when Hamas started this war, torturing & murdering over 1000 people and taking hostages who they have starved and tortured, and getting a disproportionate number of prisoners in return. They knew exactly what would happen in terms of Israeli retaliation. Because no country would fail to retaliate. And Hamas is a very wealthy organisation which has not only completely failed to protect its population but exploited them for 20 years.

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