American proposal to clear out Gaza

Thank you, don't really even know what to even say to this, it's really disturbing.

Do you mean Jews?

@Daftasabroom let people have a thread on hostages

There is room for many threads

I can understand pp would like a thread about hostages

My agreement in pp was generally

Yes, because that's not what the thread is about and it's extremely disrespectful.

Or weee yoy suggesting another reason?

No it wasn't. The thread is about Israeli hostages held on Gaza. But apparently there isn't even allowed to be a single thread about them.

We must not ignore or minimize the suffering of one group in favor of another.

I agree with you there. It's the only way to move on

What is the cemeteries of numbers? Never heard of it before.

@Daftasabroom i had never heard of cemeteries of numbers. How utterly grim and yet further evidence of how the Israeli government view Palestinians as sub human.

we Are perhaps beyond the precipice, but my concern is there is an even deeper precipice at the bottom of this one. And that terrifies me.

Is it not reasonable that a thread about the hostages can be about hostages? Do you not have hundreds of other threads to post about that plus the ability to start one?

@EasterIssland

can you imagine if the suggestion was to move the Jewish population? (And to be clear I absolutely am not proposing or supporting this - I am doing it to show the double standards that apply and the despicable racist way that the Arabs are treated.

its this crazy gaslighting world where if you criticise the Israeli government you are called an antisemite yet you can talk about ethnically cleansing Gaza and that’s just fine??

world is looking over a precipice

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/28/trump-repeats-suggestion-palestinians-should-leave-gaza-for-egypt-and-jordan

@EasternStandard yes Jewish scientists made a huge impact on the development of the bomb. Thank goodness the Nazis didn’t have access to their intellect.

the thing I find incredible is that the CIA actively used former Nazis in their efforts against communism post-War Germany. They also brought a lot of Nazi scientists over to work on their space program. Influential US politicians like the appalling Dulles brothers (one became head of CIA the other secretary of state) were actually quite antisemitic and sympathetic to Nazi cause. I suspect they were influential in the USA not joining the fight against Germany until after Pearl Harbour.

@OchaLove there's a shared history between Jewish people and the US and U.K.

One thing that made me realise how indebted to Jewish people the allies were was the Second World War and advancements in science

A lot of Jewish scientists fled and built a weapon before the Germans

I know it's only one aspect but I recommend reading on just how much they contributed

@Fordian

you are incorrect saying that Jews were ethnically cleansed from Middle Eastern countries before they lived to Europe.

firstly - there were no Middle Eastern countries as before WW1 it was the Ottoman Empire. Jews actually lived th ere to avoid persecution from Europe.

it is the Christians/Europeans who have been most antisemitic. The exodus of Jews from Middle Eastern countries was mostly post 1948 and formation of Israel.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

@OchaLove I'd imagine the US covers the Middle East because of its relatively large Jewish population, many of whom, due to their work ethic, diligence, entrepreneurial spirit and wealth generation- are in positions of power.

Why are they there? Because they fled Europe. Why were they in Europe? Because the countries of the Middle East and around the southern and eastern Mediterranean, where the Jewish diaspora had lived for sometimes hundreds of years, ethnically cleansed them.

Well, sadly there was no Instagram/tiktok/twitter then.... So how could people possibly know (sarcasm)

Look at world news, if it doesn't happen on SM, it's not happening essentially. Congo currently, anyone? Sudan was also in minds of people for a bit simply because some doctors (who cared about the others...) got stuck there and needed lift. And as the plane landed and went inyo hangar, so did attention span of people. Possible forced return of Uyghur escapees to China? Not instagrammable I guess. I heard people wondering about so sudden war in Syria. No, not sudden development. Sudden war. 40% of Ethiopia has urgent lack of food. Oh well. Nearly 8 million Venezuelans had to leave country due to violence in last 10 years or so, economic issues etc. Oh well.

It ain't on Insta, it ain't

This isn't whataboutery btw. I am just illustrating that people have short attention span, if it's not shown they don't know and SM is not particularly educating in this. Hence why people think this last year+ was a brand new conflict

What makes you think Israel's brutal suppression of Palestinians started on 7/10?

The amount of people that still think that is scary, Palestinians have been suffering for decades at the hands of Israel....