Last functioning hospital in Northern Gaza is stormed by the IDF

Root cause. Root.

If Palestine wasn't occupied you might not have terrorists running the place.

It was occupying Gaza. Some choose to pretend the blockade doesn't exist but sadly it does.

The point it that Israel's occupation leads to this kind of dysfunction. If Palestine had autonomy things would be different.

Where did I say rapists shouldn't be criticised? Rapists should always be condemned and brought to justice. These men are vile.

Whist it’s true it doesn’t mean we can’t critisice Israel and Hamas for doing so(also, Israel has been sexually abusing those in their prisons for a while. It’s not something new).

Sadly this is true of many conflicts, social breakdown and even with aid workers who supposedly are there to 'help' as in Haiti a few years ago. Women and girls are targeted. Awful.

Surely everybody knows that rape is a routine weapon of war? Anywhere you get men in positions of power over vulnerable women some of them will rape. This is especially true where normal society breaks down, so also in situations like humanitarian crises where male aid workers exploit vulnerable women.

Yes they were, according to the stories my family told me about the German occupation. They were witnesses to it.
It is also a known and recorded fact that some soldiers, who took part in the liberation of France, raped local women.
And yes, Gaza must be hell on earth.

This thread was about the destruction of the last remaining hospital in Northern Gaza. It’s all over now complete with a video to justify it.

This is a brave effort in the hope of rebuilding one of the smaller hospitals there used to be there:

Gaza Cola launched by Palestinian activist to rebuild destroyed hospital
Sales of fizzy drink from London hoped to raise money and send a message to big firms ‘investing in armed trade’

Gaza’s healthcare is on the brink of “total collapse”, according to the UN, because of the targeting of hospitals by Israel. While it is still impossible to say how much time and money it will take to rebuild, one Palestinian activist has plans to piece one small part of it back with the help of a soft drink.

Osama Qashoo, the creator of Gaza Cola, hopes to use profits from his Coca-Cola alternative, recently launched in London, to rebuild al Karama hospital, which used to stand in northern Gaza. “It’s been reduced to rubble for no just reason, like all of these hospitals in Gaza,” according to the 43-year-old film-maker, human rights advocate and, now, fizzy-drink maker.…….

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/08/gaza-cola-launched-by-palestinian-activist-to-rebuild-destroyed-hospital

And we still don't have a definition of 'entire territory'.

She was,absolutely clear 'Israeli occupation is the root of all of Palestine's problems' which absolves Hamas the PA and indeed all Palestinians of any responsibility for the situation, as if they were all 10 year olds. Its clearly nonsense.

Israel was not occupying Gaza. However, it was restricting what was going in and out of Gaza and who was allowed in and out. Has also killed thousands of innocent civilians since they left Gaza.

Also, note how the poster doesn’t say Gaza but Palestine. Israel has occupied and continues occupying Palestine and imposing restrictions.

Israel was not occupying Gaza when Hamas chose to attack Israel on 7 October. Its completely implausible that only Israel is at fault when a corrupt, dictatorial terrorist organisation has been in control of Gaza for so long.

There black markets all over Europe during and after the war.
Think of the film “The Third Man”.

The writer Anthony Burgess’s wife was raped during a blackout in London when she was three months pregnant by three American soldiers.

The examples must be endless.

Gaza must be hell on earth.

What do you mean by the entire territory?

You don't think the occupation of the entire territory might be the root of the problem, no?

A ceasefire with a neutral government would be great but whilst hamas and Netanhayu still operate that looks unlikely.

They don't care about their own. True. Is it any surprise therefore that people in their own countries with their own problems just get on with their own lives. There are often questions of why the world does nothing. It's difficult to see what can be done whilst hostages are held and terrorists still 'run' their own country into the ground. Billions sent from many countries for many years but having a terrorist organisation in charge is the root of the problems. A ceasefire with a neutral government would be great but whilst hamas still operate that looks unlikely.

Yes, and due to the break down in law and order. Every country has criminals and criminal gangs without law and order they can get on with it. Society has completely broken down unsure why people would be surprised by this.

Gangs
terrorists
idf
Israel government

dont care about Palestinians and hostages

Meanwhile in Al Jazerra now they confirm that gangs are looting aid getting in. There are many in Gaza, the gangs, the terrorists who really don't care at all about their people. It's breaking point and a real shame but not a surprise that the gangs and terrorists don't really have the interest of the people they live along side at all.

I agree on many points.

However I was explaining what a guerilla command centre might appear like.

But the IDF made a graphic claiming they did have a very large GCHQ underneath Al-Shifa hospital, that looked almost James Bond-like.

The IDF also has used the description, “Command and control centre” about many if not all places in Gaza they have bombed with a lot of civilians involved.

Maybe they don’t understand the connotations that “Command and Control Centre“ has in English, and really mean ”containing a pod of guerilla fighters” or “a squad of guerilla fighters”. It made them lose credibility imo.

So too do the accounts from IDF soldiers themselves reporting on how almost anyone they kill will be called a terrorist even when that is not warranted. Or the accounts from visiting doctors of children killed by snipers.