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Last functioning hospital in Northern Gaza is stormed by the IDF

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Whatsinanamehey · 27/12/2024 10:43

If it wasn't already clear that Israel is carrying out ethnic cleansing in the north of Gaza, then this is the final straw.

IDF soldiers have posted countless videos mocking at the destruction they have caused in the north. The north of Gaza has suffered massacre after massacre at the hands of Israel and after repeatedly targeting the Kamal Adwan hospital, they have now forced them to evacuate after bombing and killing several medics.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26v70n5z4o.amp

The photo is washed in grey from dust in the air. One man in a cap and face mask bends down, looking into a pile of rubble

Israel orders evacuation of Kamal Adwan hospital in Gaza, medics say - BBC News

The hospital's nursing director says ICU patients in comas and on ventilation machines are being forced out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26v70n5z4o.amp

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BelleHathor · 17/01/2025 11:30

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 17/01/2025 11:07

🕊️🙏🙏🙏

It's so horrific and dystopian, isn't it? I'm worried about Dr. Hussam, too. I hope he's ok.

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Absolutely, and so openly carried out too.

There is only very sporadic news coming out about Dr. Hussam from the Palestinians in 1948. His family has to walk a very tight tightrope as if they are "too loud" experience shows that the IDF seemingly deliberately target's loud voices to teach a lesson (like they murdered Dr. Hussam's son and many journalists too).

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 17/01/2025 11:07

BelleHathor · 17/01/2025 10:48

💐For all the victims, may they rest in peace.

There are just so many reports of abuse where the level of evil is unparalleled.

I am so worried about Dr. Hussam from the Kamal Adwan hospital in North Gaza. No news about him for 19 days.

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🕊️🙏🙏🙏

It's so horrific and dystopian, isn't it? I'm worried about Dr. Hussam, too. I hope he's ok.

BelleHathor · 17/01/2025 10:48

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 17/01/2025 10:31

Thank you. I was also referring to the horrific murder of Dr Adnan Al-Bursh, although it was a different prison. Sde Teiman isn't the only one of its kind

"In mid-April 2024, Dr Adnan Al-Bursh arrived at Section 23 in Ofer Prison. The prison guards brought Dr Adnan Al-Bursh into the section in a deplorable state. He had clearly been assaulted with injuries around his body. He was naked in the lower part of his body.
"The prison guards threw him in the middle of the yard and left him there. Dr Adnan Al-Bursh was unable to stand up. One of the prisoners helped him and accompanied him to one of the rooms. A few minutes later, prisoners were heard screaming from the room they went into, declaring Dr Adnan Al-Bursh (was dead)."

https://news.sky.com/story/he-was-the-light-of-my-life-and-i-lost-him-how-a-famous-surgeon-died-in-an-israeli-prison-after-being-taken-from-gaza-hospital-13253157

And there is the New York times report of Gazans, including medical staff, report being tortured by having "two soldiers to lift him up and press his rectum against a metal stick that was fixed to the ground" and “made me sit on something like a hot metal stick and it felt like fire,” and that "another detainee died after they put the electric stick up his anus".

https://archive.md/yL3Pb

Along with the the video of the poor man being raped, the evidence sexual torture is damning.

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💐For all the victims, may they rest in peace.

There are just so many reports of abuse where the level of evil is unparalleled.

I am so worried about Dr. Hussam from the Kamal Adwan hospital in North Gaza. No news about him for 19 days.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 17/01/2025 10:31

BelleHathor · 17/01/2025 08:09

Trigger Warning CNN report containing the video of IDF soldiers raping a prisoner. The prisoner later died from their injuries.

Some soldiers were arrested and this sparked protests in Israel arguing that the soldiers had did nothing wrong. One was even interviewed on live TV.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/09/world/video/israel-sde-teiman-alleged-prisoner-abuse-footage-diamond-tsr-digvid

Thank you. I was also referring to the horrific murder of Dr Adnan Al-Bursh, although it was a different prison. Sde Teiman isn't the only one of its kind

"In mid-April 2024, Dr Adnan Al-Bursh arrived at Section 23 in Ofer Prison. The prison guards brought Dr Adnan Al-Bursh into the section in a deplorable state. He had clearly been assaulted with injuries around his body. He was naked in the lower part of his body.
"The prison guards threw him in the middle of the yard and left him there. Dr Adnan Al-Bursh was unable to stand up. One of the prisoners helped him and accompanied him to one of the rooms. A few minutes later, prisoners were heard screaming from the room they went into, declaring Dr Adnan Al-Bursh (was dead)."

https://news.sky.com/story/he-was-the-light-of-my-life-and-i-lost-him-how-a-famous-surgeon-died-in-an-israeli-prison-after-being-taken-from-gaza-hospital-13253157

And there is the New York times report of Gazans, including medical staff, report being tortured by having "two soldiers to lift him up and press his rectum against a metal stick that was fixed to the ground" and “made me sit on something like a hot metal stick and it felt like fire,” and that "another detainee died after they put the electric stick up his anus".

https://archive.md/yL3Pb

Along with the the video of the poor man being raped, the evidence sexual torture is damning.

'He was the light of my life and I lost him': How a famous surgeon died in an Israeli prison after being taken from Gaza hospital

When war in Gaza erupted last year, Dr Adnan Al-Bursh worked around the clock while documenting the horror unfolding around him. Then he was detained. Now, Sky News has spoken to people who claim to have witnessed the circumstances leading to his death...

https://news.sky.com/story/he-was-the-light-of-my-life-and-i-lost-him-how-a-famous-surgeon-died-in-an-israeli-prison-after-being-taken-from-gaza-hospital-13253157

BelleHathor · 17/01/2025 08:19

Can't appear to edit my above post, but to correct the record, I'm not sure that the prisoner in the CNN report died, he was however severely injured.

stomachamelon · 17/01/2025 07:49

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne any evidence of that whatsoever? The 'raping to death' etc?

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 16/01/2025 23:49

EasterIssland · 16/01/2025 20:48

The World Health Organization (WHO) has assessed that at least $10bn will be needed to rebuild Gaza’s devastated health system over the next five to seven years.
“In Gaza, we all know the destruction is so massive. I have never seen that anywhere else in my life,” WHO representative in the Palestinian territories, Rik Peeperkorn, told reporters.
Meanwhile, the UN health agency urged the international community to step up and fund a scaled-up aid response in Gaza after Wednesday’s announcement that Israel and Hamas had reached a ceasefire agreement.
Part of the ceasefire deal – which has not been formally agreed – requires 600 truckloads of humanitarian aid to be allowed into Gaza every day.
“The UN cannot deliver the response alone,” Peeperkorn said. He said the WHO was ready to deliver, although the “significant security and political obstacles to delivering aid across Gaza” need to be removed.
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The IDF attacked hospitals, repeatedly raided them and then burned them afterwards, slaughtered staff and patients, kidnapped doctors to be taken to Sde Teiman where some were tortured and raped to death. Israel should foot the bill.

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/01/2025 20:51

SummerFeverVenice · 14/01/2025 18:21

In fact Hamas were extremely well funded and had autonomy but instead of developing Gaza for the benefit of its people they focused entirely on their hate of Jews. They even dug up water pipes to use as rockets then blamed israel for having no water.

Rubbish. Hamas had as much autonomy as any organised criminal gang. How could they have “developed” Gaza when it had been under air, sea and land blockade since before Hamas took de facto control of the inside of Gaza? Israel controls everything and everyone that goes in and out of Gaza. Including water, and Israel has heavily restricted the water supply to Gaza. The water pipes to rockets story is Hamas propaganda. Weapons experts agree that you can’t make the rockets that Hamas fired out of water pipes, and the story that they have put about is propaganda to mask the fact that their rockets are smuggled in from outside the strip. The most you can make is an IED, a pipe bomb.

There's no evidence at all that Gaza would be any different if it had even more autonomy.

Only the evidence of every other country in history that has won its independence…

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The last sentence is not convincing.
Not every country that gains independence has a good outcome for its citizens. Sadly

EasterIssland · 16/01/2025 20:48

The World Health Organization (WHO) has assessed that at least $10bn will be needed to rebuild Gaza’s devastated health system over the next five to seven years.
“In Gaza, we all know the destruction is so massive. I have never seen that anywhere else in my life,” WHO representative in the Palestinian territories, Rik Peeperkorn, told reporters.
Meanwhile, the UN health agency urged the international community to step up and fund a scaled-up aid response in Gaza after Wednesday’s announcement that Israel and Hamas had reached a ceasefire agreement.
Part of the ceasefire deal – which has not been formally agreed – requires 600 truckloads of humanitarian aid to be allowed into Gaza every day.
“The UN cannot deliver the response alone,” Peeperkorn said. He said the WHO was ready to deliver, although the “significant security and political obstacles to delivering aid across Gaza” need to be removed.
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SummerFeverVenice · 14/01/2025 18:21

In fact Hamas were extremely well funded and had autonomy but instead of developing Gaza for the benefit of its people they focused entirely on their hate of Jews. They even dug up water pipes to use as rockets then blamed israel for having no water.

Rubbish. Hamas had as much autonomy as any organised criminal gang. How could they have “developed” Gaza when it had been under air, sea and land blockade since before Hamas took de facto control of the inside of Gaza? Israel controls everything and everyone that goes in and out of Gaza. Including water, and Israel has heavily restricted the water supply to Gaza. The water pipes to rockets story is Hamas propaganda. Weapons experts agree that you can’t make the rockets that Hamas fired out of water pipes, and the story that they have put about is propaganda to mask the fact that their rockets are smuggled in from outside the strip. The most you can make is an IED, a pipe bomb.

There's no evidence at all that Gaza would be any different if it had even more autonomy.

Only the evidence of every other country in history that has won its independence…

Whatsinanamehey · 14/01/2025 11:07

The IDF doing the same things they accuse Hamas of. Openly breaking international humanatarian law. Using a marked ambulance to travel in and murdering a 80 year old Palestinian woman on the spot.

https://news.sky.com/story/idf-admits-serious-offence-after-using-vehicle-marked-ambulance-in-raid-in-which-a-grandmother-was-killed-13288120

IDF admits 'serious offence' after using vehicle marked ambulance in raid in which a grandmother was killed

A Sky News investigation analysed footage of when Halima Abu Leil was shot in Nablus - and we noted how a blue vehicle marked as an "ambulance" appeared to have been used by Israeli troops in the West Bank.

https://news.sky.com/story/idf-admits-serious-offence-after-using-vehicle-marked-ambulance-in-raid-in-which-a-grandmother-was-killed-13288120

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Lalaloveya · 13/01/2025 21:55

stomachamelon · 13/01/2025 21:10

@Lalaloveya that doesn't explain half the points that @user243245346 made does it? The complete non acceptance of Israel or Jews whatsoever? The constant rockets?
Misappropriation of funds? Lack of any surrounding Arab countries intervening in any meaningful way?

They were quoting me and I think I'm allowed respond however I see fit, thanks.

stomachamelon · 13/01/2025 21:10

@Lalaloveya that doesn't explain half the points that @user243245346 made does it? The complete non acceptance of Israel or Jews whatsoever? The constant rockets?
Misappropriation of funds? Lack of any surrounding Arab countries intervening in any meaningful way?

Lalaloveya · 13/01/2025 20:45

user243245346 · 13/01/2025 16:25

"The point it that Israel's occupation leads to this kind of dysfunction. If Palestine had autonomy things would be different."

Some People are always so keen to blame israel and Jews for the issues in Gaza. In fact Hamas were extremely well funded and had autonomy but instead of developing Gaza for the benefit of its people they focused entirely on their hate of Jews. They even dug up water pipes to use as rockets then blamed israel for having no water.

There's no evidence at all that Gaza would be any different if it had even more autonomy. We can see many of the surrounding countries have similar problems such as Lebanon and Syria who have their own Iran sponsored Islamist terrorist groups. Sadly many of these so called Palestinian advocates are harming the people they purport to be helping. The best thing Palestinian groups could do would be to accept the existence of Israel and stop the violence. But sadly too many external forces don't want to see that.

Surely it's common sense that not living under a brutal occupation is a good starting point for any country anywhere on earth.

Auvergne63 · 13/01/2025 17:20

SharonEllis · 13/01/2025 16:44

So why didn't they do sething more constructive with the money?

What do you think of Netanyahu funding a terrorist organisation? How Hamas used the money is, of course, wrong on so many levels but the fact remains Netanyahu deliberately gave money to the terrorists, who went on to commit the 07/10 atrocities.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000

A brief history of the Netanyahu-Hamas alliance | Opinion

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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000

Notaflippinclue · 13/01/2025 16:53

Their love of their people was trumped by the hatred of Jews

SharonEllis · 13/01/2025 16:44

Auvergne63 · 13/01/2025 16:41

In fact Hamas were extremely well funded
Yep. Netanyahu was one of them as well as Iran.

So why didn't they do sething more constructive with the money?

Auvergne63 · 13/01/2025 16:41

In fact Hamas were extremely well funded
Yep. Netanyahu was one of them as well as Iran.

user243245346 · 13/01/2025 16:25

"The point it that Israel's occupation leads to this kind of dysfunction. If Palestine had autonomy things would be different."

Some People are always so keen to blame israel and Jews for the issues in Gaza. In fact Hamas were extremely well funded and had autonomy but instead of developing Gaza for the benefit of its people they focused entirely on their hate of Jews. They even dug up water pipes to use as rockets then blamed israel for having no water.

There's no evidence at all that Gaza would be any different if it had even more autonomy. We can see many of the surrounding countries have similar problems such as Lebanon and Syria who have their own Iran sponsored Islamist terrorist groups. Sadly many of these so called Palestinian advocates are harming the people they purport to be helping. The best thing Palestinian groups could do would be to accept the existence of Israel and stop the violence. But sadly too many external forces don't want to see that.

Auvergne63 · 09/01/2025 16:12

ScrollingLeaves · 09/01/2025 16:01

Somehow that did not work out but it is obviously in the article.

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It worked for me. Be prepared for backlash, lol.

ScrollingLeaves · 09/01/2025 16:01

Somehow that did not work out but it is obviously in the article.

ScrollingLeaves · 09/01/2025 16:00

The article by Gideon Levy (from a poster on another thread) shows how this can be the case even though the Israelis were outside Gaza in the literal sense.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/israeli-journalist-gideon-levy-on-the-killing-of-gaza

This below is just one paragraph from the question and answer format of this informative article.
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Sharon came to the very clever conclusion that it’s for the convenience of Israel to pull out and to change the method of the prison. There are many prisons in the world in which the guards are inside the prison, and there are other prisons in which the guards choose to be outside the prison. Israel changed the method of guarding this prison, but didn’t change the prison itself because from day one, Gaza was under siege. The fact that Palestinians chose Hamas in democratic elections does not give Israel the right to put a piece of land under a total siege from the sea, the air, and obviously territorially. Not that the Palestinians didn’t make mistakes, or they couldn’t have chosen a different path. I don’t say that, but you cannot expect them to behave exactly according to the Israeli expectations. Because they came to this situation from many years of oppression and suffering. You don't change one day and become Dubai.
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