Slovenia Demands Israel's Removal From Eurovision 2025

Because you've resorted to smugly having a go at people for alleged grammatical mistakes. Again.
Perception and reality are two different things.
What you wrote was grammatically incorrect, in standard English.
There are multiple errors and typos on this thread and many others. Yet you only ever seem to go after particular posters.
Who are these particular posters?

It's an interesting one. The standards people apply to how Israel are treated vs the way Israel treat others.

Men with warrants out for their arrest for crimes against humanity are innocent until proven guilty but I've never seen that person speaking out about the torture and abuse of Palestinians in administrative detention and how unfair it is that Israel can hold them for as long they like with no charges.

Better by discriminating against people because of their nationality. Ew.

Ew when it's some Israeli sports people but the people living under apartheid don't get so much as an acknowledgement from posters who are pro Israel.

Deep down you know what Israel has been doing to Palestinians is appalling, you can apply the morality when something less bad but in the same realm happens to Israelis but can't quite connect the dots yet when it comes to why people are outraged about how Palestinians have been treated.

No idea what your point is

yes sorry. It’s also banned from international competitions. It’s not the only authoritarian country that takes part on competitions but it was banned at the same time as Russia. So, isn’t it discrimination against its citizens? They were banned from olympics 2024 because they were involved in a war. Shouldn’t other countries involved in wars be banned? Or is it only discrimination if it affects “western” countries ?

It's an interesting one. The standards people apply to how Israel are treated vs the way Israel treat others.

Men with warrants out for their arrest for crimes against humanity are innocent until proven guilty but I've never seen that person speaking out about the torture and abuse of Palestinians in administrative detention and how unfair it is that Israel can hold them for as long they like with no charges.

Better by discriminating against people because of their nationality. Ew.

Ew when it's some Israeli sports people but the people living under apartheid don't get so much as an acknowledgement from posters who are pro Israel.

Deep down you know what Israel has been doing to Palestinians is appalling, you can apply the morality when something less bad but in the same realm happens to Israelis but can't quite connect the dots yet when it comes to why people are outraged about how Palestinians have been treated.

I was talking about pro Israel posters here. They don't do that.

Desperate? No. Why would I be?

And Belorussia? Regarding Israel I’ll point you to my reply to you from 23/12/2024 16:38. Nothing has changed since I posted that comment

Russia invaded a sovreign i dependent coubtry unprovoked. Israel is defending itsrlf agai st a terrorist organisation that committed an illegal heinous act of war. Completely different situation. Russia sponsors terrorism and autocratic regimes all over the place, is involved in cyber attacks and meddling in foreign governments etc etc. Whatever you think of the prosecution of Israel's war with Hamas the situation is not comparable.

'Isnt great' is not a legal principle. Its what people say when they've got no option left but to move the goalposts

I see people raising concerns about administrative detention and legal inequalities all the time perhaps you just need to broaden your media sources and circle of people you talk to?

Russia and Bielorrusia citizens banned from international competitions. Everyone happy with it. Nobody bats an eyelid

Israel citizens people complaint because this is discrimination and it’s not the same as Russia.

It's an interesting one. The standards people apply to how Israel are treated vs the way Israel treat others.

Men with warrants out for their arrest for crimes against humanity are innocent until proven guilty but I've never seen that person speaking out about the torture and abuse of Palestinians in administrative detention and how unfair it is that Israel can hold them for as long they like with no charges.

Better by discriminating against people because of their nationality. Ew.

Ew when it's some Israeli sports people but the people living under apartheid don't get so much as an acknowledgement from posters who are pro Israel.

Deep down you know what Israel has been doing to Palestinians is appalling, you can apply the morality when something less bad but in the same realm happens to Israelis but can't quite connect the dots yet when it comes to why people are outraged about how Palestinians have been treated.

They relate to individuals who occupy the highest office in the country. We are not talking about any Tom, Dick and Harry here but the head of a government, democratically elected btw, who is ultimately responsible (on behalf of Israelis) for the actions he has taken.
Of course, guilt has to be proven but it isn't a great to find your name on a list which has Putin, a Hamas leader and many others on it.
People are innocent until proven guilty in any normal jurisdiction.
Well tell that to the thousands of Palestinians imprisoned in Israeli jails.

I don’t think you’ve responded to my point which was not to try to assert your straw man argument!

All normal legal systems have an evidential threshold for deciding to proceed with a prosecution (thats the job of the CPS here) or issuing arrest warrants. That is NOT the same as the threshold for deciding someone is guilty. It really is such an important distinction. Innocent till proven guilty is a key principle of the rule of law. To dispense with that is textbook holding Israel & Israelis to a different standard.

The democratic elected government of any country is, by default, the representative of their citizens.
Your last point doesn't make sense because you are talking about different political parties in the same country whilst the talk is about nationality.