Slovenia Demands Israel's Removal From Eurovision 2025

The "worst" people for me are the ones who, despite mounting evidence, still defend what cannot be defended. You know the relentless killing of children, the deliberate starvation, the destruction of hospitals, of a culture and so on under the guise of self-defence.

Righting the kinds of deep wrongs that are going on in Israel against Palestinians will take more than supporting charities, important though that is. The issue of BDS / global boycotts of Israeli involvement in sporting events, is really important to consider as it’s a way of creating political pressure for change and demonstrating that there will not be business as usual. LFI were referenced on this thread by people wanting to oppose the idea of sanctions for sporting events and to frame all discussions of sanctions as a question of (unlawful) discrimination against private Israeli citizens. Therefore the discussion became granular. But it actually matters, even if you don’t understand why or want to engage in it.

Ok - fair point.
Probably is time for me to leave then . There’s only so much bowls tournament / Eurovision / legal niceties talk I can take .
I’ll get my coat …

I come on here because I’m learning from different points of view. You’ve been very helpful in your advice on supporting Palestinian aid work. I’ve followed your advice and supported one of the brilliant charities you recommended.
That was constructive.
Listening to pontificating about the legalities of Israeli involvement in bowls tournaments in Norfolk was less constructive in my opinion. I think it deserved its own thread .

But we all appreciate different things…

Perhaps you can point out my personal insults?

It was the same poster who I recall telling others to respond without insults, but evidently not taking their own advice. I was merely reminding them of it.

I'd be curious what work lawyers for Israel UK have been doing on the serious issues you describe. I'm sure right at this very minute they are working to make sure those poor children get justice, oh no wait they actually oppose Netanyahus arrest warrant. But the people talking about what they are doing as always are the problem.

I don't know how long it will take people to realise that if Israel stops doing bad things, like apartheid and racial segregation, imprisoning children and abusing them, stealing people's homes and burning down their villages, using genocidal hate speech, blowing up hospitals one by one etc the amount of people talking about Israel in a negative way will decrease. Instead lawyers spend their time working on getting Israel represented in minor sports competitions and war criminals off the hook and Israel announces it's going to be spending $150million on hasbara focusing on US college campuses and social media campaigns.

Pot kettle and all that.

apparently not. but to quote Michelle Obama - when they go low, we go high.

Can you not disagree without flinging personal insults?

@stomachamelon love you too! I’m reading psalm 30 and thinking of you ❤️

@OpheliaWasntMad agreed.

Are you criticising LFI for engaging with the bowling competition or people here for having a view on them doing so? Nobody is stopping you from leaving the thread to use your time more constructively!

I watch the news and I hear about innocent Palestinian children having limbs blown off and my heart bleeds.

I hear about children hostages who have not yet been released.

I come on Mumsnet and I hear pompous legal arguments about whether Israelis should compete in an indoor bowls match in Norfolk .

Im no legal expert but I know how to focus on the issues that matter.

Russia invaded a sovreign i dependent coubtry unprovoked

So talk to us about 1947 or perhaps the occupied territories since 1967, or maybe leap frogging of the buffet zones?

'The worst people are those who judge the fault of others, but are blind to their own'.

So what was the mistake you were referring to?

There are so many serious issues to be concerned about that I feel this discussion about a bowls tournament in Norfolk is incredibly silly - it smacks more of showing off of legal knowledge and prejudice against Israelis than anything else.
Totally counterproductive.

Thank you for the compliment and the good advice.
As oscar Wilde once said. "The only thing to do with good advice is to pass it on. It is never of any use to oneself." I can't argue with that.

If not pointing out insignificant grammar mistake is difficult for you then reading mumsnet must be hell for your superior mind. Maybe you should take a break.

Why do you only point out the mistakes of people who disagree with you?

And I'm still not sure what mistake I made that your referring to in your previous post.

You appear to assume a lot about me. None of it is correct as assumptions, not surprisingly, tend to be 99% of the times wrong.
I am also actually trying really hard not to point out the glaring grammatical mistakes in your last post. Have I redeemed myself?