The brutal truth of the war in Gaza.

So when you said the brutal truth about the war in Gaza, what you meant was one sided bias which entirely lays the blame on Israel and utterly ignores the facts that:

1. Hamas broke a ceasefire and launched a deliberately barbaric attack on civilian children, women and men to provoke a violent reaction from Israel
2. Having provoked a violent attack, Hamas has not sheltered its own citizens in its massive network of tunnels ( y'know, in the way Londoners could shelter in the Tube tunnels during WW2).
3. Hamas use civilian homes and buildings to launch attacks from, meaning these buildings have to be targeted in a war against Hamas. Hamas knew this when it launched its terrorist attack on October 7th.
4. Hamas has issued public statements actively glorying in the death of civilians ( the death it wrought in its own citizens) as necessary to fortify its fighters (the fighters cowering in the tunnels the civilians are not allowed in).
5. Hamas could stop the war it started at any point by surrendering and handing back the hostages.

You do realise Hamas and Hezbollah have also fired tens of thousands at Israel since October 7th and would happily be bringing far more devastation to Israel than Israel is brining to Gaza, if only Israel did not have better defences.

War is horrific. Anyone can understand that. What I will never understand is the mentality which feels anger at Israel but not fury at Hamas.

So when you said the brutal truth about the war in Gaza, what you meant was one sided bias which entirely lays the blame on Israel and utterly ignores the facts that:

1. Hamas broke a ceasefire and launched a deliberately barbaric attack on civilian children, women and men to provoke a violent reaction from Israel
2. Having provoked a violent attack, Hamas has not sheltered its own citizens in its massive network of tunnels ( y'know, in the way Londoners could shelter in the Tube tunnels during WW2).
3. Hamas use civilian homes and buildings to launch attacks from, meaning these buildings have to be targeted in a war against Hamas. Hamas knew this when it launched its terrorist attack on October 7th.
4. Hamas has issued public statements actively glorying in the death of civilians ( the death it wrought in its own citizens) as necessary to fortify its fighters (the fighters cowering in the tunnels the civilians are not allowed in).
5. Hamas could stop the war it started at any point by surrendering and handing back the hostages.

You do realise Hamas and Hezbollah have also fired tens of thousands at Israel since October 7th and would happily be bringing far more devastation to Israel than Israel is brining to Gaza, if only Israel did not have better defences.

War is horrific. Anyone can understand that. What I will never understand is the mentality which feels anger at Israel but not fury at Hamas.

Israel routinely blocks medical evacuations of children after bombing and maiming them. Why? Why does Israel block small children from leaving to access the care they need after they brutalise them? These are serious questions that governments including our own need to press on.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/nov/15/gaza-war-children-humanitarian-aid-mazyouna-israel-refuses-medical-evacuation

This is Rahaf after Israel bombed her home in Gaza. Only two years old, she is considered as one of the lucky ones who was able to leave Gaza for treatment. Both of her legs amputated not long after she learned to walk.

"To find safety from Gaza, you need first to become the victim of a catastrophic injury and then be lucky enough to be identified, selected and extracted.
That's one of the many brutal truths from this long war."

This article is certainly an eye opening read on the failures of those governments who support Israel in their campaign of cruelty. It's very rare for Israel to allow even injured children with multiple limb amputations, to leave Gaza for treatment. I have read previously that despite all the difficult work to organise an evacuation.. in the last minute Israel will just refuse it with no explanation given.

It isn't enough that they torture and murder health care staff, they bomb hospitals, the routinely block medical aid, they constantly bomb residential blocks and safe zones. After all of that only a select few are given permission to leave this living nightmare.

https://news.sky.com/story/how-the-lives-of-the-few-child-amputees-allowed-to-leave-gaza-are-being-rebuilt-elsewhere-13278543

A poster questions why the outrage towards Israel is so much louder than for Hamas (as it was in the OP).
This leads you to question whether she cares about sick children.

Really??!!

What stupid point are you trying to make?
Whilst I don't know @bluetonguegiraffe@bluetonguegiraffe I am willing to bet she doesn't like dead kids.
Grow up.

@bluetonguegiraffe could you tell us if you support Israel in not allowing seriously sick and maimed children to leave Gaza and get the healthcare they need? That was what OP started the thread about (I thought you might need reminding). Do you also support the destruction of the hospitals in Gaza, so that the sick and injured cannot seek any medical attention? If you do could you tell us why?

@Martymcfly24
Why does Hamas exist? 🤔
From their Charter, and the very first points.
-Destruction of Israel: The charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel and rejects any peaceful resolution or negotiations that involve recognizing the state of Israel.
-Religious Motivation: It frames the conflict as a religious struggle, claiming that Palestine is an Islamic land that must not be surrendered.

It's all there for everyone to read. Don't believe it? watch the 7 October tapes. Islamists in ecstasy, their best day ever, slaughtering Jews / infidels. Screaming allahu akbar. You'll notice none were shouting 'freedom of Palestine' etc. seemed like they had another agenda. Not to mention 'normal Gazans' cheering and rejoicing at a girl, Jewish of course, contorted and bleeding. Spitting and beating her.

Prob what she deserved hey,

I agree with @bluetonguegiraffe. OP why don't you start a thread about the thousands of deaths in the war in Sudan or Turkey's slaughter of Kurds for example?

Schrodinger’s maimed Palestinian children- they’re real but Israel has been forced by Hamas to attack innocent children as part of a diabolic plot to weaponise their suffering while simultaneously there are no maimed Palestinian children, it is only disgusting Hamas propagandist lies covering up IDF’s massive success with 90% of deaths definitely being terrorist combatants.

These posters can’t even keep their falsehoods from contradicting each other.

Hamas are disgusting and it amazes me how well their propaganda has worked

Hamas are disgusting and it amazes me how well their propaganda has worked

I completely agree that Hamas are barbaric terrorists who will stop at nothing to destroy Israel, including weaponising the suffering of what they claim are their people. I hope this darkness of Islamism fades from the world.

I completely agree that Hamas are barbaric terrorists who will stop at nothing to destroy Israel, including weaponising the suffering of what they claim are their people. I hope this darkness of Islamism fades from the world.

This is truly horrific. Hamas are monsters.

This is truly horrific. Hamas are monsters.

So when you said the brutal truth about the war in Gaza, what you meant was one sided bias which entirely lays the blame on Israel and utterly ignores the facts that:

1. Hamas broke a ceasefire and launched a deliberately barbaric attack on civilian children, women and men to provoke a violent reaction from Israel
2. Having provoked a violent attack, Hamas has not sheltered its own citizens in its massive network of tunnels ( y'know, in the way Londoners could shelter in the Tube tunnels during WW2).
3. Hamas use civilian homes and buildings to launch attacks from, meaning these buildings have to be targeted in a war against Hamas. Hamas knew this when it launched its terrorist attack on October 7th.
4. Hamas has issued public statements actively glorying in the death of civilians ( the death it wrought in its own citizens) as necessary to fortify its fighters (the fighters cowering in the tunnels the civilians are not allowed in).
5. Hamas could stop the war it started at any point by surrendering and handing back the hostages.

You do realise Hamas and Hezbollah have also fired tens of thousands at Israel since October 7th and would happily be bringing far more devastation to Israel than Israel is brining to Gaza, if only Israel did not have better defences.

War is horrific. Anyone can understand that. What I will never understand is the mentality which feels anger at Israel but not fury at Hamas.

This is Rahaf after Israel bombed her home in Gaza. Only two years old, she is considered as one of the lucky ones who was able to leave Gaza for treatment. Both of her legs amputated not long after she learned to walk.