Israel accused committing genocide for preventing the access to water

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EasterIssland · 24/12/2024 07:18

andIsaid · 24/12/2024 06:56

They cannot claim the moral high ground.

They can pluck anxiously at their fingers and ask why people "hate them" when a light is shined on their atrocities.

They well have won this battle. But will they win peace?

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Have they really won the battle? Hamas is still alive. There are hostages still taken by Hamas , many hostages have been killed. Many innocent civilians have been killed. There is a threat to Israel. Their PM has been accused of war crimes and has got an arrest request. They have killed Hamas and hezbollahs leaders, however , at what price??

not sure that’s winning to be honest. To me Israel is teaching the world how you should never handle a war

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andIsaid · 24/12/2024 06:56

HelenHen · 19/12/2024 09:28

I honestly can't believe that this is still going on. How Israel can do this and then claim to have any moral high ground is very upsetting

They cannot claim the moral high ground.

They can pluck anxiously at their fingers and ask why people "hate them" when a light is shined on their atrocities.

They well have won this battle. But will they win peace?

YoYoYoYo12345 · 24/12/2024 06:50

ararara · 23/12/2024 20:47

I really don't get the cognitive dissonance from some posters. Genuinely. So baffling.

You made an almost identical post on a different thread under a different name. Is cognitive dissonance your favourite go to expression currently 😄

YoYoYoYo12345 · 24/12/2024 06:47

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Wow I've been around a while and have never seen anyone excuse the murder of children and neonates on here. I often read people saying people do it, but not read on here anyone one actually doing it.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 24/12/2024 03:01

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That's awful. 😢 I still think about those poor babies, just left to starve to death like that. 💔 I hope it was deleted.

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Rososos · 23/12/2024 23:54

BadgerInDungarees · 19/12/2024 08:08

That's really appalling reading. It's clear that Israel have purposefully deprived the civillian population of Gaza clean water and sanitation just like they said they would. It seems to be a very clear case of planning and then carrying out collective punishment by depriving men, women and children of something that is essential for life. Hopefully in time Israel will be punished to the full extent of the law for such disgusting behaviour.

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Absolutely. This is completely abhorrent behaviour, but not surprising.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 23/12/2024 23:52

Lalaloveya · 23/12/2024 23:36

Maybe he was just going for a fun spin.

That was bizarre.

Other low points include people justifying the murder of premature neonates (a crime that may he happening again for at least the third time as I speak) and posters suggesting that children may be terrorists and so it's reasonable to kill them en masse.

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Yes, it was truly bizarre. How they were making the most outlandish claims. Claims like the soldiers were taking him to hospital while there were 3 ambulances trying to get to him, that he was a terrorist so that makes it ok, even though he wasn't and it wouldn't have been ok even if he was. Absolutely disgusting.

"Other low points include people justifying the murder of premature neonates (a crime that may he happening again for at least the third time as I speak) and posters suggesting that children may be terrorists and so it's reasonable to kill them en masse."

Omg! Was that here? I see that sentiment expressed all the time everywhere else, so I won't be completely surprised if it was.

Hyperquiet · 23/12/2024 23:48

They've been committing genocide for ages.

The most harrowing account sticks with me: the Israeli soldier that shot an infant in a Mother's arms because he was annoyed at the baby's crying.

Souless.

Lalaloveya · 23/12/2024 23:36

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 23/12/2024 23:34

I think racism and bigotry has a lot to do with it. I realised very early on how the lives of Palestinians just don't matter to a lot of people (both on Mumsnet and in general). It was very depressing witness people tie themselves into knots to justify the war crimes committed in Gaza. And outside Gaza, too. The incident in the West Bank where the IDF tied an injured man onto a jeep to use as a human shield, for example.

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Maybe he was just going for a fun spin.

That was bizarre.

Other low points include people justifying the murder of premature neonates (a crime that may he happening again for at least the third time as I speak) and posters suggesting that children may be terrorists and so it's reasonable to kill them en masse.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 23/12/2024 23:34

ararara · 23/12/2024 22:36

Just outright disgusted by some of the minimisation that goes on.

I think racism and bigotry has a lot to do with it. I realised very early on how the lives of Palestinians just don't matter to a lot of people (both on Mumsnet and in general). It was very depressing witness people tie themselves into knots to justify the war crimes committed in Gaza. And outside Gaza, too. The incident in the West Bank where the IDF tied an injured man onto a jeep to use as a human shield, for example.

Lalaloveya · 23/12/2024 23:15

YoYoYoYo12345 · 23/12/2024 23:08

You yourself said you don't get it 🙄

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It's hard for normal people to understand how some people can allegedly care about certain people but not at all about others.

It's a very common feature on these boards and is not a complex concept.

YoYoYoYo12345 · 23/12/2024 23:08

ararara · 23/12/2024 22:35

clearly I do or I wouldn't have used the phrase.

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You yourself said you don't get it 🙄

ararara · 23/12/2024 22:36

Just outright disgusted by some of the minimisation that goes on.

ararara · 23/12/2024 22:35

YoYoYoYo12345 · 23/12/2024 22:22

You don't get that "people might have a psychological state of discomfort that occurs when they hold conflicting beliefs, attitudes, or values."

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clearly I do or I wouldn't have used the phrase.

YoYoYoYo12345 · 23/12/2024 22:22

ararara · 23/12/2024 20:47

I really don't get the cognitive dissonance from some posters. Genuinely. So baffling.

You don't get that "people might have a psychological state of discomfort that occurs when they hold conflicting beliefs, attitudes, or values."

ararara · 23/12/2024 20:47

I really don't get the cognitive dissonance from some posters. Genuinely. So baffling.

ararara · 23/12/2024 19:52

I've been watching what's been going on this week open mouthed. The cruelty is insane. Poor Palestinians.

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EasterIssland · 21/12/2024 06:16

Lalaloveya · 20/12/2024 23:29

Your lack of understanding is genuinely baffling.

The IDF is bombing a defenceless civilian population. What don't you understand?

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Also the thread is about Israel / IDF preventing access to the water to these civilians.

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Lalaloveya · 20/12/2024 23:29

SharonEllis · 20/12/2024 22:32

Not at all, because noone can be bothered to explain it!

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Your lack of understanding is genuinely baffling.

The IDF is bombing a defenceless civilian population. What don't you understand?

SharonEllis · 20/12/2024 22:32

Lalaloveya · 20/12/2024 16:50

Yes because the people of Gaza have no defence from the IDF which is why mainly civilians are dying.

Do you finally understand the point now?

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Not at all, because noone can be bothered to explain it!

Lalaloveya · 20/12/2024 16:50

SharonEllis · 20/12/2024 14:59

Apparently it was 'central to the conflict' so you'd think it was more than semantics but I guess we'll never know.

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Yes because the people of Gaza have no defence from the IDF which is why mainly civilians are dying.

Do you finally understand the point now?

Auvergne63 · 20/12/2024 15:56

BadgerInDungarees · 19/12/2024 23:29

This is a fascinating read from an Israeli journalist on the topic.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/israeli-journalist-gideon-levy-on-the-killing-of-gaza

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I made a thread about this article. This man is really remarkable.

SharonEllis · 20/12/2024 14:59

Daftasabroom · 20/12/2024 11:15

I thought Hamas were a terrorist organisation? Surely they can't be an army and terrorists at the same time?

Hamas are terrorists who commit heinous crimes.

IDF are an army who commit heinous crimes.

The semantics is pretty irrelevant to the victims of those crimes.

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Apparently it was 'central to the conflict' so you'd think it was more than semantics but I guess we'll never know.

MissyB1 · 20/12/2024 12:23

Daftasabroom · 20/12/2024 11:15

I thought Hamas were a terrorist organisation? Surely they can't be an army and terrorists at the same time?

Hamas are terrorists who commit heinous crimes.

IDF are an army who commit heinous crimes.

The semantics is pretty irrelevant to the victims of those crimes.

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Well said!