The future for Muslims in the UK is "bleak and dystopian"

Mass illegal immigration is the issue. What people see is mainly young men rocking up in boats, given a warm hotel room, meals & allowances
You do know that illegal immigrants don't get any state support obviously. Asylum seekers do while they are waiting for their application to be processed. I think this kind of misinformation doesn't help things and again is about incitement to hate. Well done

Ok .. which bit was inciting hatred and misinformation? Maybe i misunderstood

I don't think it's Brexit. When I was growing up my Muslim friends behaved like everyone else ..drinking loads, smoking, drugs if they wanted, going out with non Muslim boys. They weren't separating themselves from their peers in any way. I hope young Muslim girls are still happy and confident enough to do that if they want to?

Hang on - a description of how people feel doesn't mean it wasn't spreading misinformation which it was. Misinformation we have seen over the last few decades now has incited more and more hatred towards mostly Muslim people. Correcting misinformation isn't shutting down genuine concerns. If they're so concerned that asylum seekers are living it up then surely correcting them is easing their concerns? How else are you suggesting these concerns are addressed ?

I disagree that the Islamist voice is louder. People think it is because of right wing agitators on social media. The racist and hateful voices are most certainly louder and have been since Brexit.
I've joined Blue Sky to escape the bile and hatred on X.

Then you've never visited an abortion clinic. Prayer is used as a weapon every day.

I attended an abortion clinic in the Midlands and with the extreme Christian weirdos outside and the vile comments of the Muslim taxi drivers, it was a more miserable day than it was already going to be.

People really should keep their nasty religions to themselves.

I don’t think that post was in any way an “incitement to hate” or spreading misinformation. It was a description of the way many people feel.

Your response is the sort of overblown reaction that makes dialogue impossible and ultimately results in a much bigger societal conflict. You can’t shut down genuine concerns. You have to address them or feelings become more extreme.

I am well aware of the tensions. I was merely pointing out that fearing 6.7% of the population would become the majority and vote in Sharia Law highly unlikely and not a realisitc fear to hold

As you don’t live here you’re probably not aware of all the tensions .
amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/31/batley-school-what-teacher-in-hiding-can-tell-us-about-our-failure-to-tackle-intolerance

I’m not having a go at you - no need to be so aggressive
This is not about you. You accused a pp of inciting hatred. I think those kind of comments raise the temperature. Better to keep things moderate.

Let's say that hypothetically every single Muslim in the UK supported the implementation of sharia law in the UK, (emphasis on hypothetically!) How an earth would it happen? It's nigh on impossible, why would you worry about that?

My concern is sharia law. Currently the majority in this country don't advocate for sharia law but if the demographic changes significantly this may change.

6.7% of the population is Muslim. What you are fearing is not likely to happen is it?

My concern is sharia law. Currently the majority in this country don't advocate for sharia law but if the demographic changes significantly this may change. That would be perfectly democratic if the majority wanted it of course. But it's hardly something I would look forward to. I think people are concerned that many or most Muslims would support sharia law in the UK however and that perception might explain why some consider them a threat.

This is not a perception that I had growing up when I had many Muslim friends who behaved just the same way as anyone else re drinking, attitudes re sex etc so something has changed. The perception has changed in the last twenty years. It may be that the Islamist voice is louder now.

My concern is sharia law. Currently the majority in this country don't advocate for sharia law but if the demographic changes significantly this may change. That would be perfectly democratic if the majority wanted it of course. But it's hardly something I would look forward to. I think people are concerned that many or most Muslims would support sharia law in the UK however and that perception might explain why some consider them a threat.

This is not a perception that I had growing up when I had many Muslim friends who behaved just the same way as anyone else re drinking, attitudes re sex etc so something has changed. The perception has changed in the last twenty years. It may be that the Islamist voice is louder now.

I can’t imagine why anyone would object to people praying.

Your response is the sort of overblown reaction that makes dialogue impossible
Dialogue is impossible on this thread when there is so much racism and misinformation being spouted but go ahead have a go at me, predictable.

My concern is sharia law. Currently the majority in this country don't advocate for sharia law but if the demographic changes significantly this may change. That would be perfectly democratic if the majority wanted it of course. But it's hardly something I would look forward to. I think people are concerned that many or most Muslims would support sharia law in the UK however and that perception might explain why some consider them a threat.

This is not a perception that I had growing up when I had many Muslim friends who behaved just the same way as anyone else re drinking, attitudes re sex etc so something has changed. The perception has changed in the last twenty years. It may be that the Islamist voice is louder now.

OP and PPs Id be interested to know if you live in a city/ town with a high Muslim population?

Growing up in Bradford (or ‘Bradistan’ as people call it), I can tell you that a lot of division is self imposed. Often they build their own communities and will not integrate or often even speak with non-muslims.

I don’t think that post was in any way an “incitement to hate” or spreading misinformation. It was a description of the way many people feel.

Your response is the sort of overblown reaction that makes dialogue impossible and ultimately results in a much bigger societal conflict. You can’t shut down genuine concerns. You have to address them or feelings become more extreme.

Mass illegal immigration is the issue. What people see is mainly young men rocking up in boats, given a warm hotel room, meals & allowances
You do know that illegal immigrants don't get any state support obviously. Asylum seekers do while they are waiting for their application to be processed. I think this kind of misinformation doesn't help things and again is about incitement to hate. Well done

Ultimately migrants need to largely assimilate with the host community. Whilst many Muslims have there are areas that have almost been turned into Muslim ghettos and are electing MPs based on Muslim interests rather than the national ones. We can keep a liberal mindset on this and ignore it and in time it will bubble over or our politicians can address it. Not sure how, that’s not my job, but no point denying it and kicking the can down the road, it is an issue that will only get bigger.