The future for Muslims in the UK is "bleak and dystopian"

I think the issue is that tolerance levels have been pushed too far.
Apart from die hard racists most people accept different religions and cultures in the UK in a live and let live sort of way but the gaza protests have inspired some muslims to push far further than a large section of the UK population are comfortable with.
People don’t like all the flag waving and chanting on our streets and feel protective to jewish people who have been here far longer and have no association with terrorist attacks in the UK.
The UK is not a muslim country and many people now feel the need to push back at what they feel is overreach and an attempt to change the UK a step too far.
The pp says muslims and islam are separate but this is not the case to 99% of onlookers.

They can alway go and live in a Muslim country though?
Wow, just wow.
I have often wondered why Muslims especially, where their religion seems to be most important aspect of their identity, chose to live in a Christian country with a secular government. Obviously it’s not compatible.
Tell me you know nothing about history without telling me you know nothing. There have been Muslims in the UK for 300 years.
As stated Jews have much more to fear. The vast majority of terrorist attacks in recent history have been from Muslims so it’s not controversial that people associate the religion with that, but I don’t think we’ve ever seen a Jewish terrorist attack in the UK.
The vast majority of terrorist attacks have been from Islamists, not Muslims.
Educate yourself on the difference.

My guess, they would be getting into positions of power and influence so they could eliminate their opposition, same as any other determined extremist group. You're fine as long as you agree with their stance. CF north Korea, China, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan...

If you're calling for elimination or silencing of an opposing group you're an extremist or the tool of one, if you seek integration you need to examine differing viewpoints fairly rather than shout them down.

Why do we? What do you think the intention of setting fire to the hotel was? Not to burn it with people inside? You're also making it sound like one lone person setting it alight, not a mob supported by a further mod online.

If we aren't going to call racist white supremacists attacking Muslims while spouting far right rhetoric far right I dread to think what the real far right are and what they'd be doing. Could you tell me what they would be doing please?

They can alway go and live in a Muslim country though?

I have often wondered why Muslims especially, where their religion seems to be most important aspect of their identity, chose to live in a Christian country with a secular government. Obviously it’s not compatible.

As @quantumbutterfly stated Jews have much more to fear. The vast majority of terrorist attacks in recent history have been from Muslims so it’s not controversial that people associate the religion with that, but I don’t think we’ve ever seen a Jewish terrorist attack in the UK.

TBF the far right and the far left are both pretty terrifying, ask anyone who's lived under communism. Their playbooks are similar but we just have to believe the far left are doing it for our own good.

Ok. If a single hotel is targeted again in that way against illegal immigrants, someone attempt to set fire to it, no one dies, it's a "pogrom".

If every mosque in the uk is burned down full of Muslims and they all die it's also a pogrom (a real one). But the word has lost a bit of its power though because it's being used for one off events of lesser seriousness (although obviously serious). We need a new word then for the mosque burning. to convey its real horror. What word would you use for that?

Same with the use of "far right" that you and 2TK used. If/when the real far right emerge how will you describe them?

It is indeed. Some posters on here know nothing about Islam and its teachings. They conflate Islamists with Muslims. Education is key here.

I have. It's a pretty common name amongst working class people from those areas who are bearing the brunt of stretched resources and not having the privilege to move away when they don't like the area any more.

Very few people dislike Muslims.

Plenty of people dislike having mass immigration of any group that will not integrate and tries to force their views on others, especially when those views are harmful to other groups.
Plenty of people dislike the gradual erosion of their culture. People above have given examples of not being able to celebrate Christmas at work, and I've experienced this too. We have a law and culture here that works and shouldn't be forced out.
Plenty of people dislike infrastructure being stretched by mass migration with no plan to build the things the extra people need. Again, this hits vulnerable people far harder than those who can move easily and pay for private healthcare if needed.
Plenty of people dislike being called racist when they ask legitimate questions about how these problems are going to be solved.

None of this is a major issue if you're a middle or upper class white person with choices.

You implied it though. At least, be honest.

Says you. I've said why it was (a month attack of against people and property of a particular ethnic group?, why don't you say what makes it not one?

Yes it's terrible. I made the point earlier in this thread that it's bad for non Islamist Muslims as their voices aren't being heard.

Having read the op's article: stats for religious hate crimes 38% Muslim, 33% Jewish (13% increase in crimes attributed to rise in antisemitism.
From internet census data;Muslim community in UK 3.87 mil, Jewish community in UK 271,327).

From the stats the Jewish community has far more reason to fear, probably why their schools and synagogues have extra security.

Incidentally, in my previous post I didn't mention religion, I did mention sex,age and cultural differences.

Ok add men too to my point.

It was a riot. Not a pogrom.

Why are you making this about women? Muslim men don't drink either. Muslim men are also not supposed to have sex outside marriage. Just like Hindus (as I know from my DH's Hindu family).
The Muslims I know (or the vast majority) actively don't want to drink. It's how they've been raised.
It's like my Hindu DH - he was raised not to eat cows and now at 45, the thought of eating beef is quite repulsive to him. He's not sitting around yearning for a burger. He doesn't want a burger!
If you've been raised to avoid alcohol or pork or beef or whatever, then many people won't want it. If a Muslim desperately wants a drink then they're capable of getting one.

But that can be profoundly offensive in British society and culture.

When I travel to Muslim countries, I cover myself from my hairline to my ankles so as not to cause offence. I am sensitive to local norms. Perhaps you could consider showing the same sensitivity & good manners in the UK.

Is there a reason that when it comes to Islamophobia you are much more concerned about one person's fear of violence from Muslims (which by reading into it has been investigated by police and they haven't found him at risk ) compared to the majority of Muslims actually experiencing real violence?

If a real "far right pogrom" broke out everyone would assume it was that same sort of single incident where no one actually died. The word loses its power

Huh? This makes no sense. So for thousands of racists to target Muslims in the street, set fire to buildings with people in them, smash up Muslim businesses, swarm mosques threatening people and damaging them while thousands and thousands of people online cheered them on tweeting how they should all be gotten rid of and if no one dies it's not that serious?

re your last comment- It’s completely unacceptable for anyone to feel unsafe going about their daily life . I’m really sorry that you or anyone has experienced this . There is no justification ever for that .

The fact remains that Islam is at loggerheads with western ideology which leads to problems. For example homosexuality, the inequality of women and girls, forced marriage, anti abortion, anti sex education, sex before marriage, polygamy, freedom of speech, women forbidden from shaking men's hands, honour killings and "dowry deaths", to name but a few. I know many of you will try to tell me that these examples are not in the Quran and are merely cultural. But many of them are in the Quran and, whether cultural or not, they are practiced. If I told you that all of these things were practiced in the name of Catholicism or Methodism I'm pretty sure the majority of comments would express, at the very least, utter disgust. Yet in the name of Islam they get a free pass.

@Scirocco I am really sorry that you worry about actual physical harm when going to the supermarket near your relative.

That's not OK and shouldn't be the case.