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Hamas kicked out of The State of Qatar

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2triangles · 09/11/2024 19:04

Where next for them? Iran probably not safe and the door for negotiations would close. Turkey?

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mouthpipette · 09/11/2024 21:03

Well, here's an opinion that's not going to be very popular, but then I haven't got many friends anyway, which is why I'm on here all day.

Norway.

I probably trust them more than most other European countries.

And before I go on to describe why, I'm distinguishing between the "governing" arm of Hamas and al-Qassam, its terrorist wing. Though the two are strongly linked.

The cornerstone of democracy is that "The People" shall have a say in how they are governed and that those who govern them shall represent their best interests. .At present the only people who speak for those in Gaza are Hamas. There is no one else. We in our democracies don't seem to listen to the people of Gaza. If we did we'd make it stop. Who else have they to hear them, but Hamas?
Ideally, Hamas will either moderate or be replaced.... democratically.....

But until then, the views of Gazans and other Palestinians needs representation, and a hearing......well that leads to negotiation and negotiation leads to ceasefire and hostages with many, many other options.
So we hate what Hamas represents or has been responsible for but we have to listen. We can't stick our fingers in our ears and go La La La forever.

Why Norway? They would be great interlocutors. Track record of trying to sort out disputes, very few vested interests, good skiing.

OctoberOctopus · 09/11/2024 19:33

Afghanistan or Iran (since they love terrorist scumbags)

Chowtime · 09/11/2024 19:31

I think Afganistan, Pakistan and Russia would be happy to take them.

OctoberOctopus · 09/11/2024 19:30

"After rejecting repeated proposals to release hostages, its leaders should no longer be welcome in the capitals of any American partner. We made that clear to Qatar following Hamas's rejection weeks ago of another hostage release proposal," the senior official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity."

Would Hamas be welcome anywhere?

Chowtime · 09/11/2024 19:28

2triangles · 09/11/2024 19:16

They could get kicked out of NATO?

Who Turkey? Whilst I think they'd have Hamas, I don't think they would if NATO said they couldn't. They'd rather NATO than Hamas.

I rather like Turkey. I was against them joining the EU for a long time but am now of the opinion that it's better they are our allies.

Agree with a PP who said Algeria. There's always Pakistan obviously, and Afganistan.

2triangles · 09/11/2024 19:17

Algeria?

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2triangles · 09/11/2024 19:16

They could get kicked out of NATO?

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MissyB1 · 09/11/2024 19:13

Turkey seems likely, the rest of Europe won't like it but not much they can do.

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