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Again though why are you choosing to put pro Palestinian people and Jews as opponents rather than pro -palestinian protestors and pro-Israeli protestors? Are you insinuating that Pro-Palestinian protestors are attacking Jewish people in the same way that these Israeli football fans were chanting "finish the Arabs" and attacking Moroccan cab drivers by protesting against the assault on Gaza?

Thanks for correction. I usually only follow the main news since more accurate. Hence my urge to watch the latest news reports from Amsterdam police statements.

It doesn't take away from what the Amsterdam police report of planned attacks on Jewish people from people out of the area. Still anti semitism as the reason for the attacks since planned ahead of any flag removal and not football related.

That's something we will never hear on here

Is it supporting Israel? I would have thought it was shame and apology for attacks on visitors to his country

That x account shared by the poster is hateful cesspit that equates anyone who is pro-Palestinian as pro-Hamas. Considering that I'm not too taken aback that they are spreading wilful misinformation.

@KoalaBC probably the most vomit inducing part of this whole situation is Geert Wilders, an obnoxious anti semite and racist, capitalising on this incident and condemning the violence as a pogrom. That should tell us a lot.
Why is Geert Wilders supporting Israel here?

I did see some of the footage on the news of the actual attack which was very violent. I can't see the point of using footage from an unrelated event to make a point that it was violent.

It's apparently from an unrelated incident in 2023 but researching that before posting it here would have been too much for PP perhaps.

According to this account this is an old video from 2023 that has nothing to do with yesterday's violence.

https://x.com/dintentdata/status/1854868603830423618?t=7h9xNDAW1EOkCP_mazXnqQ&s=19

Absolutely this.

Doubt those saying ' 'the Israeli's brought it on themselves'. Would have said the Pro-Palestinians had brought it on themselves, if Jews responded violently.

In fact, we can see right now that they are not saying that.

Go watch the news then. Amsterdam police reported that. Organised groups, from outside the area, scooters arrived to attack the fans, all planned.

Is this video even verified from yesterday's attack?

@quantumbutterfly what's the problem with the posts from Wikipedia- they give examples of the dreadful levels of violence in Ajax fan bases. Which doesn't go away.
These aren't people to start battles with.

I haven't seen that reported actually.

Are you purposely ignoring that attacks were planned in advance of the game. Nothing to do with the game, the national anthem or what occurred on the day. Planned in advance.... coordination of scooters riding into attack. Seen that before haven't we.

@LetThereBeLove your argument is that all Israelis are entitled to a free pass for bad behaviour because anything else is Anti Semitic.

The club should have clamped down on these ultras earlier in the year. Why on earth is anyone defending the violence they perpetrated against Muslims or brown people?

It was quite obviously a disproportionate and violent response but I can't understand why some posters are choosing to ignore or pretend there was no provocation for it?

That is sick. Attacks on Jewish people. Clear as day. Children joined in with the planned attacks. They threw one Jewish man onto the train tracks. Sick, vile anti semitic thugs. Call it what it is for once.

Exactly this.

So you think it is not related in anyway by the provocation of the Maccabi fans chanting death to Arabs amongst other hideous things?

That this is not antisemitism but hooligans behaving like thugs being attacked by thugs

Did you read your own link? Please read it again and adjust your post.

Thanks, Lolapusht.

Will have a read.

Worrying they planned the attack. In a European country.

@OctoberOctopus
Lying in wait for opposing fans is what football hooligans/ ultras do. They organise in gangs and brigades.
This is the absolute definition of hooliganism.
It really is not all about Jews.
If you've ever been to a football match you'll know the kind of insults and sectarian/ racist/ homophobic language that gets thrown out casually.
Maccabi ultras dished out plenty of that unfortunately they picked the wrong city to do it in.