Amsterdam

From the Telegraph link above
'Now it has emerged that the attacks on the Jewish football fans were planned in advance and co-ordinated using WhatsApp and Telegram.
The Telegraph has seen messages from a group chat called Buurthuis, a Dutch word for a type of community centre, which were posted on Wednesday, the day before the match.
One message says: “Tomorrow after the game, at night, part 2 of the Jew Hunt.
“Tomorrow we work them.”

Later on in the article
'As he thrashes around in the water, a pursuer shouts: “Say Free Palestine, and we’ll let you go,” and spits out a vile Dutch phrase that means “Cancer Jew”.

I'm not scared although I know my DDs are. I am furious.This is exactly what my family faced in Germany almost 100 years ago and my grandmother and other relatives died in a concentration camp. There was no Jewish state to escape to then, my mother tried but the British prevented her and thousands like her from entering the Mandate.

Have a read of the quote history with your 'Israel propaganda machine ' the Mayor, the King of the Netherlands, the Prime Minister, the police..... they have correctly called it. They are not part of the 'Israel propaganda machine, '. Goodness you make sweeping statements as in history then whinge when you get pulled up on it.

I know. It’s extraordinary to see the mental gymnastics people will go to, in order to avoid condemning Jews being hunted and beaten on the streets of Europe in 2024.

I found it chilling. Jewish people are scared.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/11/08/jewish-maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-attacked-in-amsterdam/

Oh look.

I'm late to this thread but its hard to believe, even by the standards of mn. I thought it was about the horrific, chilling attacks on Jewish people in Amsterdam, but no, after we've got over blaming Jewish people for being attacked, we are now back to usual old shit about the war, apartheid, colonialism etc Just listen to yourselves.

I'm late to this thread but its hard to believe, even by the standards of mn. I thought it was about the horrific, chilling attacks on Jewish people in Amsterdam, but no, after we've got over blaming Jewish people for being attacked, we are now back to usual old shit about the war, apartheid, colonialism etc Just listen to yourselves.

This X thread provides an excellent breakdown of actual events:
https://x.com/adammaanit/status/1855021426488885266

Wow. You accuse me, falsely, of minimising, denying and sweeping under the carpet antisemitism whilst you do exactly that regarding the blatant islamophobia displayed by some of the Israeli fans.

There's plenty of them who are violent towards pro Palestinians. Don't act like the violence doesn't go both ways.

A few articles and quotes from people who may well be biased in this is not proof. This is not definitive proof.

I don't know why the Mayor or the King or the Police called it 'an explosion of anti semitism ' . Perhaps because it was!

I don't know why they didn't condone chants. Perhaps the anti semitic attacks were planned, coordinated attacks that were going to happen regardless of anything else than evening. There were men on scooters coordinated to attack Jewish people. Asking who were Jews first then attacking.

Thankfully they knew what it was and called it what it was. Thank goodness people on these mn threads aren't in charge, it would be minimised, denied and swept up the carpet. I'd rather listen to them than you.

Well you seem to place all the blame on Israel on your previous posts and no mention of the part Hamas have played in this when in fact they are the main aggressors here.

It is not the Israeli governments fault that the civilians have been placed above tunnels. My entire point has been that Hamas are to blame for that. They placed them there! It wasn’t an accident. Also we still don’t know what proportion of the civilian deaths are actually terrorists. Recent estimates state that one civilian has been killed per terrorist. This ratio is a lot better than other conflicts. If Israel wanted to eliminate Palestinians then the deaths would be much higher and this ratio would be a lot worse. They want to remove the terrorists that will kill them all if allowed, it’s not hard to understand this.

Well you seem to place all the blame on Israel on your previous posts and no mention of the part Hamas have played in this when in fact they are the main aggressors here.

It is not the Israeli governments fault that the civilians have been placed above tunnels. My entire point has been that Hamas are to blame for that. They placed them there! It wasn’t an accident. Also we still don’t know what proportion of the civilian deaths are actually terrorists. Recent estimates state that one civilian has been killed per terrorist. This ratio is a lot better than other conflicts. If Israel wanted to eliminate Palestinians then the deaths would be much higher and this ratio would be a lot worse. They want to remove the terrorists that will kill them all if allowed, it’s not hard to understand this.

Yes of course I condemn Hamas, Millie. I also condemn the Israel Government. Religious fundamentalist lunatics, both.

Do you?

The fact that there are tunnels beneath the feet of innocents is not their choice or their fault! The fact that civilians, who have no choice but to live under Hamas rule, are between the Israeli missiles and the tunnels should be enough to stop those missiles from being launched.

The IDF is probably the most efficient, highly trained and well equipped army in the world. Do you really think it’s incapable of locating and destroying the tunnels (and indeed the terrorists) if its masters actually want it to? The fact is, they don’t.

The Israeli Government wishes to eliminate Palestine and Palestinians just as fervently as Hamas wishes to eliminate Israel and Jewish people.

Both sides are equally culpable.

@MrsSkylerWhite If you are going to condemn killing innocent children (understandably so) then you need to condemn everyone responsible. Hamas are responsible for killing many children on both sides. So if your not pro Hamas CONDEMN their actions!!! If you are going to put all the blame on Israel then you are misguided.

And of course many civilians have died if they are not allowed to evacuate and terror tunnels are strategically placed under civilians. The terrorists are at fault here, they started this conflict and then hid under civilians. They don’t care about the Palestinian children, how they’ve spent their billions have proven that. They could have made Palestine amazing with all that money. But instead they built downwards, instead of upwards.