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Hamas don’t want peace

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Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 06/11/2024 10:19

A two day ceasefire was offered to them in return for four hostages but they declined. Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, said Hamas “once again refused to release even a limited number of hostages to secure a ceasefire and relief for the people of Gaza”.
Isreal has now offered a million dollars for each hostage and safe passage out of Gaza for their captors. Hamas have yet to respond.

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DieDreiHexen · 06/11/2024 13:08

Of course they do not want peace.

They are radical Islamists which means they are idea logically opposed both to peace and to a Palestinian state.

Seasmoke · 06/11/2024 13:02

GhostCicada · 06/11/2024 12:38

So why didn't they just stay living in their own homes/land instead of forcibly expelling Palestinians from theirs?

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Have you heard of a little thing called WWII? They were also expelled or killed in virtually all the surrounding countries, where they had lived for 1000's of years. The current Israeli government is horrific, but that does not mean that the Jewish people have just tipped up from nowhere. And 'the jews' didn't do it. The Allies did. This is mainly a mess caused by the British Empire.

Felixfox · 06/11/2024 12:54

I visited Jerusalem about 20 years ago. I was astonished how all the different faiths lived civilly, side by side. Hamas is to blame for this. They have also successfully brainwashed many of the Palestinians to hate Jewish people. The sort of hate that culminates in October 7th where for the duration of the massacre and attack, it felt like there was hell on earth.

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 12:46

@Fairy0708 what's that got to do with your initial statement that Israel hasn't been in peace?

And yes Jews, Christians and Muslims were living together in peace for 1000s of years prior so why did they cause so much suffering to establish their own state?

Again, wake up and stick to your original point rather than bringing 'facts' that actually prove my point.

GhostCicada · 06/11/2024 12:38

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 12:31

I would love to know if you really truly know your facts and history? The official state of Israel was established in 1948. Jews had lived on the land for 1000s of years. Including... Guess who... Jesus Christ.... Jeez

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So why didn't they just stay living in their own homes/land instead of forcibly expelling Palestinians from theirs?

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 12:33

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 12:15

@Fairy0708 Israel didn't exist prior to 1948 and to establish themselves they murdered over 15k Palestinians and displaced many many more and they expect to be left alone in peace ? I'd love to know how you'd react if someone just chucked you out of your house and said it's mine now. Wake up.

Oh and I'm very, very Wake (and informed, unlike yourself). 👍

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 12:31

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 12:15

@Fairy0708 Israel didn't exist prior to 1948 and to establish themselves they murdered over 15k Palestinians and displaced many many more and they expect to be left alone in peace ? I'd love to know how you'd react if someone just chucked you out of your house and said it's mine now. Wake up.

I would love to know if you really truly know your facts and history? The official state of Israel was established in 1948. Jews had lived on the land for 1000s of years. Including... Guess who... Jesus Christ.... Jeez

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 12:15

@Fairy0708 Israel didn't exist prior to 1948 and to establish themselves they murdered over 15k Palestinians and displaced many many more and they expect to be left alone in peace ? I'd love to know how you'd react if someone just chucked you out of your house and said it's mine now. Wake up.

grimupnorthnot · 06/11/2024 12:11

Wibble128 · 06/11/2024 12:10

The PLO walked away from the chance of a peace agreement as well.

Again playing with only part of the storey.

grimupnorthnot · 06/11/2024 12:11

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 12:08

Funny that, Israel also has not had peace since then.

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Wonder why that is? Britain and the us are to blame for it. Decades of genocide and murder.

SometimesCalmPerson · 06/11/2024 12:11

Isreal needs to offer land and homes back and stop bombing if they want peace. Why would Palestinians want to make peace with people that aren’t offering to end their occupation and suffering? All the millions in the world won’t give them their lives back and the lives of the hostages are no more important than the lives of Palestinians.

Isreal is only making this offer to pacify their own citizens, not because they believe in peace for Palestine.

Wibble128 · 06/11/2024 12:10

The PLO walked away from the chance of a peace agreement as well.

Whatwillbreaknext · 06/11/2024 12:09

Hamas don't want peace (and have never experienced it in their life times thanks to Israel). The Israeli government do not want peace for Gaza's civilians. Do you think Gaza's civilians deserve peace OP?

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 12:08

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/11/2024 12:05

Hamas have previously offered more than 4 hostages back in exchange for a ceasefire and Netenyahu refused. Did you claim Israel didn’t want peace then?
Truth is it’s a whole lot more complicated than refused ceasefire deal = doesn’t want peace. But essentially neither Hamas nor Netanyahu want peace and neither gives a fuck about the hostages,

More than 4...out of over 200 or so still left including children and babies. Amazing offer.

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 12:08

grimupnorthnot · 06/11/2024 12:06

Not since 1948

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Funny that, Israel also has not had peace since then.

grimupnorthnot · 06/11/2024 12:06

Doford · 06/11/2024 12:05

Did Gaza “have peace” prior to October 7th?!

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Not since 1948

grimupnorthnot · 06/11/2024 12:06

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 06/11/2024 10:41

@Actupfishy , didn’t fancy answering my question?

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Isreal are the problem and the ones causing genocide. The terms of the ceasefire are awful so no owners Hamas don’t want it.

Doford · 06/11/2024 12:05

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/11/2024 12:05

Hamas have previously offered more than 4 hostages back in exchange for a ceasefire and Netenyahu refused. Did you claim Israel didn’t want peace then?
Truth is it’s a whole lot more complicated than refused ceasefire deal = doesn’t want peace. But essentially neither Hamas nor Netanyahu want peace and neither gives a fuck about the hostages,

This.

Doford · 06/11/2024 12:05

Verv · 06/11/2024 11:53

Of course Hamas don't want peace.
They had peace and chose to massacre on Oct 7 before hiding behind human shields in their burrows below public buildings.

Did Gaza “have peace” prior to October 7th?!

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/11/2024 12:05

Hamas have previously offered more than 4 hostages back in exchange for a ceasefire and Netenyahu refused. Did you claim Israel didn’t want peace then?
Truth is it’s a whole lot more complicated than refused ceasefire deal = doesn’t want peace. But essentially neither Hamas nor Netanyahu want peace and neither gives a fuck about the hostages,

Doford · 06/11/2024 12:04

I don’t any of us think that Hamas want peace. That doesn’t justify Israel’s behaviour though; they are killing innocent people because Hamas live amongst them.

Wordsmithery · 06/11/2024 12:03

It seems to me (and I'm admittedly no expert) that Hamas committed an atrocity and ordinary Palestinians - some of whom support Hamas, many of whom don't - are paying the terrible price.
It feels inevitable that continued bombardment of civilians will drive more Palestinians to align with Hamas. They have no other means of defence.

Jaxhog · 06/11/2024 11:54

Actupfishy · 06/11/2024 10:22

Oh aren't isreal lovely.What compensation for the 10s of thousands of babies they have murdered?

What's your source for such nonsense?

herecomesautumn · 06/11/2024 11:53

KoalaCalledKevin · 06/11/2024 10:56

@Icanthinkformyselfthanks you didn't ask a question.

But of course Hamas don't want peace. I don't know anyone who thinks that they do.

AIB

The whole thread and the whole section of Mumsnet is a question

Verv · 06/11/2024 11:53

Of course Hamas don't want peace.
They had peace and chose to massacre on Oct 7 before hiding behind human shields in their burrows below public buildings.

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