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Hamas don’t want peace

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Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 06/11/2024 10:19

A two day ceasefire was offered to them in return for four hostages but they declined. Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, said Hamas “once again refused to release even a limited number of hostages to secure a ceasefire and relief for the people of Gaza”.
Isreal has now offered a million dollars for each hostage and safe passage out of Gaza for their captors. Hamas have yet to respond.

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Comedycook · 06/11/2024 14:05

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Dear oh dear....what a disgusting post.

Can't believe you actually used the term decent Jews......what do you call the ones who don't agree with you?

MissyB1 · 06/11/2024 14:02

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 06/11/2024 13:51

Neither side want peace.

The civilians watching their families and friends being killed every day do. The medical staff treating kids with limbs blown off and horrific burns do. The Aid agencies seeking the effects of starvation do.

It's up to the rest of the world to enforce a permanent ceasefire now. Standing by and just wringing hands (or even worse funding the war), makes other Governments complicit.

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 14:01

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Hamas are murdering raping terrorist scum and supporting them is illegal. Sinwar needs to rot in hell.

Kakeandkake · 06/11/2024 13:59

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 10:22

Of course they don't. They don't care about the Palestinian people.

No one is happier to see ordinary Palestinians suffer than Hamas....great pr for them...sadly.

This is Israeli propaganda constantly used by those who attempt to justify Israel's barbaric treatment of the Palestinians. Looky here! Hamas don't care so stop blaming us for the massacres we carry out every day!
Hamas don't care so let us carry on ethnic cleansing in peace!
Hamas don't care so stop complaining when we bomb hospitals every month!

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 13:57

Kakeandkake · 06/11/2024 13:50

What sick twisted people even support Israel in their genocide? Do you have no hearts? Do you not give a shit about how many Palestinian children Israel murder every single day?

Such hyperbole

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 06/11/2024 13:51

Neither side want peace.

Liv999 · 06/11/2024 13:50

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 13:23

Are yoy saying Israel shouldn't have peace?

Of course Israel should have peace, so should Gaza, but when you deliberately steal someone else's land you're not going to have peace, Israel should know this by now

Kakeandkake · 06/11/2024 13:50

What sick twisted people even support Israel in their genocide? Do you have no hearts? Do you not give a shit about how many Palestinian children Israel murder every single day?

DancefloorAcrobatics · 06/11/2024 13:49

A ceasefire isn't a peace offer.... I think there is a lot more to this current conflict than just fighting Hamas. Neither side will stop, because they can't.

Israel has fought wars approximately every 15 years since it was founded ...

1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006 and now!

www.britannica.com/event/Arab-Israeli-wars

Lucyshoebeck · 06/11/2024 13:46

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Kakeandkake · 06/11/2024 13:44

SometimesCalmPerson · 06/11/2024 12:11

Isreal needs to offer land and homes back and stop bombing if they want peace. Why would Palestinians want to make peace with people that aren’t offering to end their occupation and suffering? All the millions in the world won’t give them their lives back and the lives of the hostages are no more important than the lives of Palestinians.

Isreal is only making this offer to pacify their own citizens, not because they believe in peace for Palestine.

This exactly and as if Netanyahu the war monger wants peace. I think YABU OP to fixate on a two day ceasefire whilst a genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza is taking place which is quite a big hindrance to peace.

Liv999 · 06/11/2024 13:40

SometimesCalmPerson · 06/11/2024 12:11

Isreal needs to offer land and homes back and stop bombing if they want peace. Why would Palestinians want to make peace with people that aren’t offering to end their occupation and suffering? All the millions in the world won’t give them their lives back and the lives of the hostages are no more important than the lives of Palestinians.

Isreal is only making this offer to pacify their own citizens, not because they believe in peace for Palestine.

This

Liv999 · 06/11/2024 13:39

A two day ceasefire? What an insult to the Palestinian people

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 13:31

Unfortunately people have been ‘brainwashed’ to think being Anti Israel is the same as being Anti Jewish

In many cases it is.

And what is your definition of Zionism?

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 13:28

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 13:23

Well about 80% of Jewish people are zionists so...

I think it's higher than that isn't it?

But the current trend is to demonise zionism...it's very tedious and quite transparent.

Comedycook · 06/11/2024 13:25

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 13:23

Well about 80% of Jewish people are zionists so...

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Opentooffers · 06/11/2024 13:25

They probably don't have that many alive hostages left by now, if any. So couldn't even if they wanted to.

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 13:23

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 13:20

Palestinians don’t hate Jews, they hate the Zionists that have killed so many of them for 76 years and illegally occupied their land - don’t think you need to be ‘Brainwashed’ to know this. Zionism isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Zionism. Unfortunately people have been ‘brainwashed’ to think being Anti Israel is the same as being Anti Jewish, it’s not.

Hamas were wrong to kill innocent people on 7 Oct but Israel have been doing the same since 1948. So no, Hamas didn’t cause this, Israel did when they decided that they wanted their own land and ethically cleansed the area to make it their ‘own’. The creation of groups like Hamas was inevitable. Do you expect everyone to just sit tight and let Israel illegally occupy them? In regard to your point about your visit to Jerusalem, Palestinians have no choice but to live in accordance with how the Israeli government wants otherwise guess what? They’ll get shot dead or taken to Israeli prisons without charge if they resist the illegally occupation.

Well about 80% of Jewish people are zionists so...

whytetulip · 06/11/2024 13:23

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 12:15

@Fairy0708 Israel didn't exist prior to 1948 and to establish themselves they murdered over 15k Palestinians and displaced many many more and they expect to be left alone in peace ? I'd love to know how you'd react if someone just chucked you out of your house and said it's mine now. Wake up.

Are yoy saying Israel shouldn't have peace?

FfsBrian · 06/11/2024 13:21

Hamas are and have always been war dogs. They never want peace - it’s not who they are or their directive. AND they have been very vocal and honest about that on several TV broadcasts

Thats why they spent billions of ££ we sent of aid money on building tunnels under the ground and letting the people of Gaza rot - no electricity or clean water - Israel paid for it all.

It’s also the reason none of the surrounding Arab countries would take the Palestinians in because of past events where they caused civil war.

It’s also the reason students in the UAE have been banned from flying the Palestinian flag & marching - and have even been deported.

Yet time and time again the white liberals of Europe with romanticised ideas and no real understanding of who these demons are continue wear the kaffir like fools and go on marches. Queers for Palestine is the sickest joke of all.

HowardTJMoon · 06/11/2024 13:21

Does your claim of Hamas not wanting peace mean that you feel the killing of thousands of Palestinians is justified, or something else?

mumstheword223 · 06/11/2024 13:20

Felixfox · 06/11/2024 12:54

I visited Jerusalem about 20 years ago. I was astonished how all the different faiths lived civilly, side by side. Hamas is to blame for this. They have also successfully brainwashed many of the Palestinians to hate Jewish people. The sort of hate that culminates in October 7th where for the duration of the massacre and attack, it felt like there was hell on earth.

Palestinians don’t hate Jews, they hate the Zionists that have killed so many of them for 76 years and illegally occupied their land - don’t think you need to be ‘Brainwashed’ to know this. Zionism isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Zionism. Unfortunately people have been ‘brainwashed’ to think being Anti Israel is the same as being Anti Jewish, it’s not.

Hamas were wrong to kill innocent people on 7 Oct but Israel have been doing the same since 1948. So no, Hamas didn’t cause this, Israel did when they decided that they wanted their own land and ethically cleansed the area to make it their ‘own’. The creation of groups like Hamas was inevitable. Do you expect everyone to just sit tight and let Israel illegally occupy them? In regard to your point about your visit to Jerusalem, Palestinians have no choice but to live in accordance with how the Israeli government wants otherwise guess what? They’ll get shot dead or taken to Israeli prisons without charge if they resist the illegally occupation.

Doford · 06/11/2024 13:14

Fairy0708 · 06/11/2024 12:31

I would love to know if you really truly know your facts and history? The official state of Israel was established in 1948. Jews had lived on the land for 1000s of years. Including... Guess who... Jesus Christ.... Jeez

Now we are just getting a bit silly. Are you about to move on “the promised land” part? Who promised it?

Daftasabroom · 06/11/2024 13:09

Wibble128 · 06/11/2024 12:10

The PLO walked away from the chance of a peace agreement as well.

It wasn't a peace agreement. It was an unacceptable proposal by Israel and her allies.

Auvergne63 · 06/11/2024 13:09

Both Jews and Palestinians have lived on the land, prior to 1948. Both have valid claim to their ancestral land. Let's not forgot this.
Have you also heard of "the Uganda scheme"? Palestine wasn't the first choice for a safe haven for Jewish people.
Do you know your facts and history?