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Hamas don’t want peace

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Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 06/11/2024 10:19

A two day ceasefire was offered to them in return for four hostages but they declined. Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, said Hamas “once again refused to release even a limited number of hostages to secure a ceasefire and relief for the people of Gaza”.
Isreal has now offered a million dollars for each hostage and safe passage out of Gaza for their captors. Hamas have yet to respond.

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Scirocco · 08/11/2024 15:34

Sheri99 · 08/11/2024 15:08

You have ZERO reliable proof of your statement. Stop aggrandizing and spreading false information. One baby that dies due to terrorism is too much. Stop the terrorists from being IN Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, ANYWHERE.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo

Perhaps if one baby dying from terrorism is too much, analyses like this should raise some concerns about the appropriateness and 'necessity' of what the IDF and Israeli government are doing.

These children are being killed by choices made by the IDF and Israeli government. People have free will and agency. Alternative approaches exist, but this is what is being chosen.

Do these children matter less because of their ethnicity? Should we not condemn all such suffering, regardless of a child's bloodline or passport or family faith?

Two women cry out as they lean against a wall and hold two children - one a young girl and the other a baby wrapped in a blanket - in a school sheltering displaced people in Gaza. Another young woman is seen in the background.

Nearly 70% of Gaza war dead women and children - UN

A UN agency verified victims from a six-month period and said it found international law violations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo

Sheri99 · 08/11/2024 15:31

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/11/2024 11:16

What difference would a 2 day ceasefire make to the Palestinian people if Israel were to go back to bombing the shit out of them after that two-day break. Genuine question...

Israel is not "bombing the - out of them". Palestinians are collateral damage due to Hamas' refusal to use rules of engagement one of which means: "Do not HIDE behind civilian populations". Look at facts not emotional propaganda. Hamas and the likes, use not just Palestinians but also emotion filled sympathetic people, such as yourself, as a means to create emotion thereby furthering their jihadist cause.

mumstheword223 · 08/11/2024 15:22

@Sheri99 What about before Hamas existed? Gazans were still being killed, expelled and having their land and property illegal stolen from them? What about the in the West Bank where Hamas doesn’t operate?

In them last 70 years that you've mentioned, Hamas is relatively new so can you explain why Palestinians were being oppressed by Israel prior to Hamas?

JaneJeffer · 08/11/2024 15:19

Well, if they do not separate themselves from terrorist organizations, fight to stop Hamas from ruling them, controlling them, likely the bombs will never stop.
How do you suggest they go about that @Sheri99?

Sheri99 · 08/11/2024 15:15

Dulra · 08/11/2024 15:03

Not sure why you think you are above everyone else posting here. Thankfully some of us understand the serious nature of the topics being discussed and don't feel the need to resort to petty patronising insults when we've run out of things to say.

They were not "petty patroni(z)ing insults".

Only you can make yourself feel inferior to anyone.

Don't speak for everyone else because not everyone else thinks like you do.

Usernamesareboring1 · 08/11/2024 15:14

Sheri99 · 08/11/2024 15:08

You have ZERO reliable proof of your statement. Stop aggrandizing and spreading false information. One baby that dies due to terrorism is too much. Stop the terrorists from being IN Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, ANYWHERE.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo.amp

Two women cry out as they lean against a wall and hold two children - one a young girl and the other a baby wrapped in a blanket - in a school sheltering displaced people in Gaza. Another young woman is seen in the background.

Nearly 70% of Gaza war dead women and children - UN

A UN agency verified victims from a six-month period and said it found international law violations.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo.amp

Kakeandkake · 08/11/2024 15:14

Sheri99 · 08/11/2024 15:08

You have ZERO reliable proof of your statement. Stop aggrandizing and spreading false information. One baby that dies due to terrorism is too much. Stop the terrorists from being IN Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, ANYWHERE.

You really need to read more

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo

Two women cry out as they lean against a wall and hold two children - one a young girl and the other a baby wrapped in a blanket - in a school sheltering displaced people in Gaza. Another young woman is seen in the background.

Nearly 70% of Gaza war dead women and children - UN

A UN agency verified victims from a six-month period and said it found international law violations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo

Sheri99 · 08/11/2024 15:11

mumstheword223 · 08/11/2024 15:04

@herecomesautumn yeah lol.

Ranting? Bored?

Ah it's a shame you see the conflict as something that's going to bring you some sort of entertainment. Appreciate the freedom you have to drop in and out whenever you want, I'm sure the people of Palestine have wanted the same freedom from the bombs dropping on their heads for over 70 years.

Well, if they do not separate themselves from terrorist organizations, fight to stop Hamas from ruling them, controlling them, likely the bombs will never stop. And this mess has been going on much LONGER than 70 years.

herecomesautumn · 08/11/2024 15:10

mumstheword223 · 08/11/2024 15:04

@herecomesautumn yeah lol.

Ranting? Bored?

Ah it's a shame you see the conflict as something that's going to bring you some sort of entertainment. Appreciate the freedom you have to drop in and out whenever you want, I'm sure the people of Palestine have wanted the same freedom from the bombs dropping on their heads for over 70 years.

Thanks 👍

Sheri99 · 08/11/2024 15:08

Actupfishy · 06/11/2024 10:22

Oh aren't isreal lovely.What compensation for the 10s of thousands of babies they have murdered?

You have ZERO reliable proof of your statement. Stop aggrandizing and spreading false information. One baby that dies due to terrorism is too much. Stop the terrorists from being IN Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, ANYWHERE.

mumstheword223 · 08/11/2024 15:04

@herecomesautumn yeah lol.

Ranting? Bored?

Ah it's a shame you see the conflict as something that's going to bring you some sort of entertainment. Appreciate the freedom you have to drop in and out whenever you want, I'm sure the people of Palestine have wanted the same freedom from the bombs dropping on their heads for over 70 years.

Dulra · 08/11/2024 15:03

herecomesautumn · 08/11/2024 14:52

"lol". 🤣🤣🤣

I'll post and read where I see fit, thanks. Until I get bored again. But it's always worth coming back to.

It's like leaving a room while people are ranting and walking back in hours later and they're still going on and on.

Not sure why you think you are above everyone else posting here. Thankfully some of us understand the serious nature of the topics being discussed and don't feel the need to resort to petty patronising insults when we've run out of things to say.

JaneJeffer · 08/11/2024 14:55

Too true

herecomesautumn · 08/11/2024 14:52

mumstheword223 · 08/11/2024 14:48

@herecomesautumn lol I am right 'pet'. I suspect we won't see you on any more CIME threads given you're so fed up of us 🥲

"lol". 🤣🤣🤣

I'll post and read where I see fit, thanks. Until I get bored again. But it's always worth coming back to.

It's like leaving a room while people are ranting and walking back in hours later and they're still going on and on.

JaneJeffer · 08/11/2024 14:51

@Dulra it was called "They were warned this would happen. Bibi has compromised the safety of his people" about the football incident in Amsterdam

herecomesautumn · 08/11/2024 14:49

@Usernamesareboring1

I didn't for one minute think the now deleted post was about me. I merely thought it worth mentioning that lots of posts in the CIMEA echo chamber are very, very similar.

Anyway. I'll let you all get back to your hobby

How ridiculous 🤣🤣🤣

mumstheword223 · 08/11/2024 14:48

@herecomesautumn lol I am right 'pet'. I suspect we won't see you on any more CIME threads given you're so fed up of us 🥲

Dulra · 08/11/2024 14:46

JaneJeffer · 08/11/2024 14:45

Didn't mean to cause a kerfuffle but my post has been deleted now so everyone can breathe a sigh of relief.

To get back to the topic regarding a ceasefire I had posted this earlier on a thread which got deleted www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd9n02xxexko.amp

Thanks
What thread got deleted?

Daftasabroom · 08/11/2024 14:45

@Feelingathomenow you continually misrepresent history, you're either ignorant, prejudiced or lying. Perhaps all of those.

For example;

Many civilians died in WW2 in trying to stop the spread of tyranny

This is untrue, the allies didn't fight the axis powers on any other grounds other than to prevent and ultimately reverse German expansionism. If Germany hadn't invaded it's neighbours it's doubtful either the west or USSR would have done much at all.

JaneJeffer · 08/11/2024 14:45

Didn't mean to cause a kerfuffle but my post has been deleted now so everyone can breathe a sigh of relief.

To get back to the topic regarding a ceasefire I had posted this earlier on a thread which got deleted www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd9n02xxexko.amp

Usernamesareboring1 · 08/11/2024 14:44

herecomesautumn · 08/11/2024 14:35

@Usernamesareboring1

Do I? That's your inference.

I couldn't GAF which is why I - and presumably the others that are being coyly referred to - dip in and out of these threads

I've got a life. I'm neither obsessive or obsessed. I'll leave that to you lot

No one was referred to on PPs post though. You seem to have decided it was aimed at yourself and got quiet defensive over it for someone who "doesn't GAF" . Someone doth protest too much..

Dulra · 08/11/2024 14:38

herecomesautumn · 08/11/2024 14:35

Bless. I expect you're right pet

So patronising. Shame you've to resort to personal insults pretty immature.

herecomesautumn · 08/11/2024 14:35

mumstheword223 · 08/11/2024 14:23

@herecomesautumn what's the point of commenting on these threads in the first place then? It's a forum with different opinions. If you don't like people disagreeing then you're on the wrong site 🤔

Bless. I expect you're right pet

herecomesautumn · 08/11/2024 14:35

@Usernamesareboring1

Do I? That's your inference.

I couldn't GAF which is why I - and presumably the others that are being coyly referred to - dip in and out of these threads

I've got a life. I'm neither obsessive or obsessed. I'll leave that to you lot

mumstheword223 · 08/11/2024 14:23

@herecomesautumn what's the point of commenting on these threads in the first place then? It's a forum with different opinions. If you don't like people disagreeing then you're on the wrong site 🤔

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