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How many more will Israel kill?

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Whatsinanamehey · 29/10/2024 15:20

Nearly a 100 people reportedly killed in the north of Gaza today from a strike in Beit Lahia. Many of the dead are small children with some of the footage the most shocking I have seen. Dead children still trapped under the rubble and countless more injured. How can they continue to kill like this? How can this still be justified as self defence? How can such callous disregard for human life be condoned?

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Liv999 · 29/10/2024 19:36

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Of course they don't, their own country has blown them to bits along with the Palestinian people

Whatsinanamehey · 29/10/2024 19:32

So many injured from today's indiscriminate attack can't even recieve treatment after Israel raided the nearby hospital and forced most of the staff to leave.

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GreekDogRescue · 29/10/2024 19:24

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Daftasabroom · 29/10/2024 19:23

What will figure 7 and 8 look like in the series below? It doesn't leave much to the imagination does it?

How many more will Israel kill?
dairydebris · 29/10/2024 19:08

Tel12 · 29/10/2024 19:04

They don't care how many die and while the US continues to send weapons it will continue.

Would you also like the US to stop sending interceptors for the Iron Dome? You know, the defense system that stops the rockets continually being lobbed by Hamas from slaughtering Israeli civilians? Or should they stop those too?

Tel12 · 29/10/2024 19:04

They don't care how many die and while the US continues to send weapons it will continue.

maudelovesharold · 29/10/2024 19:01

How many more will Israel kill?

As many as it takes to get its hands on what’s left of Gaza. Israel has an agenda far bigger than protecting its citizens. It has a target in its sights and unlimited ammunition. Make no mistake, Israel wants as much of the Gaza Strip as it can get away with plundering. What it doesn’t want is the inconvenience of the people who live there, so Israel slaughters, bombs, burns and starves them and destroys their infrastructure. It’s like watching civilisation unravel right in front of our eyes.

dairydebris · 29/10/2024 18:48

Scirocco · 29/10/2024 18:40

Even if Hamas did that, it wouldn't be the end of this genocidal campaign.

I disagree. I think it would be the end of this war. I think international and internal pressure would be such that the war would have to stop. Who would they be fighting, if Hamas surrendered and admitted Israel's right to exist? Serious question- do you believe Israel would just keep bombing until there's no civilians left? You honestly believe that? I don't.
I hope we'll see soon. This war won't continue for ever. And there will still be many, many Palestinians alive. Some in Isreal. Some in Jordan, some in the West Bank. Because it's not genocide. It's war. It's awful. I hope it ends soon.

Auvergne63 · 29/10/2024 18:41

Cozylozy · 29/10/2024 18:38

Genocide.
just imagine if we had done the same in Northern Ireland

Indeed.

Scirocco · 29/10/2024 18:40

dairydebris · 29/10/2024 18:32

I don't know why people on here keep insisting that the US and the UK 'make' Israel stop? It's not a playground at school. Israel is a sovereign nation. It does what it needs to to protect it's security. No one tells it what to do.

Hamas get stop this war any day by returning the hostages ( or their bodies ), surrendering, and admitting Israel's right to exist...

Still waiting for one of you to start that thread if you care so much about Palestinian lives....

Even if Hamas did that, it wouldn't be the end of this genocidal campaign.

Auvergne63 · 29/10/2024 18:40

dairydebris · 29/10/2024 18:32

I don't know why people on here keep insisting that the US and the UK 'make' Israel stop? It's not a playground at school. Israel is a sovereign nation. It does what it needs to to protect it's security. No one tells it what to do.

Hamas get stop this war any day by returning the hostages ( or their bodies ), surrendering, and admitting Israel's right to exist...

Still waiting for one of you to start that thread if you care so much about Palestinian lives....

Israel is a sovereign country who is dependant on the US dollars to "defend" itself.
So, yes, the US could stop the slaughter but Israel is advantageous to them.
I won't bother answering your second point because it has been done ad nauseum.
Finally, what are trying to say with your last sentence? Care to elaborate?

Cozylozy · 29/10/2024 18:38

Genocide.
just imagine if we had done the same in Northern Ireland

dairydebris · 29/10/2024 18:32

I don't know why people on here keep insisting that the US and the UK 'make' Israel stop? It's not a playground at school. Israel is a sovereign nation. It does what it needs to to protect it's security. No one tells it what to do.

Hamas get stop this war any day by returning the hostages ( or their bodies ), surrendering, and admitting Israel's right to exist...

Still waiting for one of you to start that thread if you care so much about Palestinian lives....

Auvergne63 · 29/10/2024 18:30

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Scirocco · 29/10/2024 18:29

Lexy70 · 29/10/2024 18:22

I too would really like to know what Israel would have to do for the US and UK to stop backing it. I feel there are no red lines left to cross.

Children, residential areas, hospitals, starving a nation, no aid.

What horrific act of war is there left for Israel to carry out.

I think they will continue doing exactly as they like but if anyone knows what would lead to US/UK withdrawing their support of Israel I would be interested to know.

Currently there are domestic and international advantages to having Israel as an ally, which are of more value to US politicians than innocent (mostly) Muslim lives. As long as those advantages remain, the Israeli government, IDF and 'settlers' can probably do what they want.

Maybe an actual nuclear strike might raise a few eyebrows, but probably wouldn't get more than a "see me after class" level of reprimand.

Scirocco · 29/10/2024 18:22

User37482 · 29/10/2024 18:13

Erm I think thats a map of Iranian influence, not an invasion map.

What it is, is a presentation of nations of innocent people being dehumanised and defined by their ethnicity as "The Curse", which is then used to present others as "The Blessing" and the people 'chosen' to wipe out the curse, and make the land there 'pure' again.

See also: the maps of Israel that show borders completely obliterating Palestine, maps of plans for 'Greater Israel', etc.

If a different man were holding those pictures, the world would probably be a bit more critical, but because it's that man, it's apparently not a big deal.

Lexy70 · 29/10/2024 18:22

I too would really like to know what Israel would have to do for the US and UK to stop backing it. I feel there are no red lines left to cross.

Children, residential areas, hospitals, starving a nation, no aid.

What horrific act of war is there left for Israel to carry out.

I think they will continue doing exactly as they like but if anyone knows what would lead to US/UK withdrawing their support of Israel I would be interested to know.

Whatsinanamehey · 29/10/2024 18:13

Westfacing · 29/10/2024 17:36

As many as they like it seems - the world has stood by and done nothing so far.

Starmer's empty words today mean nothing - I don't know why he opens his mouth to be honest. If Netanyahu doesn't listen to the US president he's hardly going to take any notice of anyone else.

I fully agree with this. Our MP knows that Netanyahu will take no note of his empty words or threats unless he takes action like he is being demanded to. Until then it's just a pointless exercise in the hopes to appease those who are against the genocide.

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Interlaken · 29/10/2024 17:55

Are you in a position to state that? I think returning the hostages will be just the beginning.

When we look at this map, which Netanyahu is so brazen about, and why wouldn’t he be, we know that it is purely about stealing land and resources, and somehow removing the inhabitants in the green marked area out, presumably by bombing them as they are doing in Gaza and Lebanon and paid for by their western allies (I.e. Us).

If you cannot even recognize genocide happening under your nose, something has gone seriously wrong.

Erm I think thats a map of Iranian influence, not an invasion map.

User37482 · 29/10/2024 18:12

If Hamas actually said “look we are giving back the hostages” I think it would be done. The majority of the political pressure in Israel is for hostages to be returned not to create “greater Israel” 🙄.

Netanyahu isn’t actually a dictator, distinctly morally iffy but he is actually elected.

Interlaken · 29/10/2024 17:55

bellinisurge · 29/10/2024 15:31

It's horrendous. Give the hostages back. It ends.

Are you in a position to state that? I think returning the hostages will be just the beginning.

When we look at this map, which Netanyahu is so brazen about, and why wouldn’t he be, we know that it is purely about stealing land and resources, and somehow removing the inhabitants in the green marked area out, presumably by bombing them as they are doing in Gaza and Lebanon and paid for by their western allies (I.e. Us).

If you cannot even recognize genocide happening under your nose, something has gone seriously wrong.

How many more will Israel kill?
MissyB1 · 29/10/2024 17:43

bellinisurge · 29/10/2024 15:31

It's horrendous. Give the hostages back. It ends.

You know that's rubbish don't you? Netanyahu has not agreed to any such deal!! This was never about the hostages for him.

UltraHorse · 29/10/2024 17:41

It's sick all the killing and Kier saying Israel has the right to defend itself it's way past that. The hostages are probably mostly already killed by the Israeli attacks and if not why would Gaza release them for a temporary cease fire Israel doesn't talk about permanent cease fire Starmer should represent the people and ask people what they want to see like how many British citizens want to see an end to British support for Israel

Westfacing · 29/10/2024 17:36

As many as they like it seems - the world has stood by and done nothing so far.

Starmer's empty words today mean nothing - I don't know why he opens his mouth to be honest. If Netanyahu doesn't listen to the US president he's hardly going to take any notice of anyone else.

spuddy4 · 29/10/2024 17:32

bellinisurge · 29/10/2024 15:31

It's horrendous. Give the hostages back. It ends.

It's been going on for years so highly unlikely that it will ever end.