How many more will Israel kill?

Potential death? You do know that this number does not take into account the people under the rubble? You do know that starvation/illnesses kill slowly? That people can die from their injuries months later?
Why are you trying to minimize Palestinian deaths?

I despair too but not for the same reasons as you.
The horrors of the Holocaust, where nearly 12 millions were murdered, started on a "small scale". It is an horrible fact but a fact it is. Because no nations objected to it, this was ramped up. The world did nothing to stop it. The world is also doing nothing to stop what is happening in Gaza.
Your minimizing of the number of Palestinian deaths is also troubling.
No life is worth more than an another although it appears that the Israeli government does not believe this.
This was written by Gabor Mate, well before the events of the last year, but sadly still relevant.
Israel: The Beautiful Dream has become a Nightmare by Dr. Gabor Maté

A potential death in the future that may or may not come to pass is not the same as the loss of an actual human life. Surely you can see that?

40,000 so far. Israel have no intention of stopping.

Israel is doing exactly what was done to them? So to be clear, the industrial explosion and slaughter of appropriately 6 million Jews is the same as the killing in war of appropriately 30 to 40 thousand Palestinians? You really think that's true?

It's only true if a Jewish life is only worth a tiny portion of a Palestinian life.

You're standing by that?

I despair.

Don't be naive.

Don't be naive. It will never end. The irony is Israel is doing exactly what was done to them. Appalling.

The maps are wrong.

The Israeli parliament voted recently to reject a two state solution so any return of hostages is not going to give one.

I am unsure if the rape comment is directed towards me but rape is not an act of resistance I agree, when either side use it.

@Martymcfly24 I want what I have always wanted - a two state solution.
Rape is not an act of resistance.

No. Around 100 are unaccounted for and many of them are probably dead.

Yes - this is a very fair and measured summary.

It is all so tragic - what has happened and what is still happening .

Trying to understand does not necessarily mean approve or support. It's a way to see the cause of a problem. Only then you can hope to see a solution.

Did Natanyahu support radical islamism? Why did you he do that??
Do extremists use different religious texts? If not, than your reading might imply that ALL muslims would have radical tendencies.

Some Israelis are horrified by the slaughter and some are taking boat trips to see Gaza and blocking aid trucks and organizing resettle Gaza conferences.

What is your vision of what happens once the hostages are handed back?

Hopefully it is that Israel withdraw and allow Palestine a two state solution with no military interference from them. Allow them rights to their water and to move freely. Allow those in the West Bank to live peacefully without fear of settlers who are supported by the IDF attacking their schools and their homes.

@dairydebris I think there is a significant difference between resistance (including armed resistance) and terrorism. In general terms, when people think about armed resistance, it's primarily about direct struggles against oppressing/occupying/invading forces, but terrorism is primarily directed against civilian groups not posing imminent risks of harm, with the purpose of causing harm and fear to others. What Hamas (and those who followed their lead) did on October 7th was terrorism - they attacked civilian populations engaged in ordinary civilian activities, people who were just living their lives, and used tactics intended to spread fear and distress as well as causing great harm to the victims.

The wrongs done to Palestinians prior to October 7th do not justify the atrocities committed by Hamas. Nor do the atrocities of Hamas justify the atrocities being committed against Palestinians and Lebanese people by Israeli forces.

@bellinisurge if only I had that within my power, they would all be home and safe. Sadly, I don’t hold out any hope for that.

This slaughter has to stop. There is no justification for what is happening. It’s indefensible and I don’t think that an end to this slaughter and mass movement of Gazans is in sight. We’re witnessing a genocide in real time. It’s sickening and I don’t for a second believe this is about getting hostages home safely.

I believe Netanyahu is a self-serving criminal who holds Palestinians, international law and Israelis in contempt. What a legacy…

@AccountCreateUsername of course Israelis are horrified by the slaughter. They are also horrified by Oct 7.
You think giving back the hostages would make no difference? Try it. See what happens

How come people don’t say this about Ukraine?

Have all o the hostages taken on 7th Oct 2023 all been released yet?

Are you saying that Hamas isn't Radical Islamism but instead it's violent resistance? And that my seeing it as RI and being afraid of it shows that I've misunderstood Islamic texts?
I'm finding it difficult to understand your meaning here?

Yes - I agree with this. I think my point was that AI is inadequate as a means of assessing violent references in religious texts as your last sentence neatly explains.
I think the poster’s more important point was that any religion can have dangerous extremists.
This is why education is so important- any religious text can be wilfully misinterpreted ( or accidentally misunderstood ) by people with their own agenda . We certainly have that in Christianity.

What "violent resistance" are you talking about?

@Limesodaagain I think @myearthisflat may be referring to a number of comparative analyses carried out by fairly advanced (at the time) AI and analytic software.

The findings were interesting, and were consistent in finding that references to themes of violence were highest in the Old Testament (5.3% in one analysis, for example) and lowest in the Qur'an (2.1% in the same analysis), and references to themes of forgiveness were highest in the Qur'an (6.3% in that analysis) and lowest in the Old Testament (0.7% in that analysis).

However, there are limitations to such analyses and to what can be interpreted from the findings.

For example...

Most comparative analyses have been done using translations rather than original texts - this brings in potential confounders relating to the accuracy of translation and the selection process for the translations used.

Violence is part of our world, so it makes sense for there to be references to it in texts aiming to provide guidance on how to live in the world. A reference to violence could be related to self-defence, or rules of conduct in war, or explicit calls to commit aggression, or allegorical/symbolic. That nuance doesn't appear to be considered in most analyses.

Different texts may have different underlying principles for the same word. For example, some people believe spiritual forgiveness is granted on a personal basis with a plea for forgiveness, while others believe that it is only granted after reparations are made to whoever was wronged by the act for which forgiveness is being sought, while others believe ritual processes are required, etc... A simple count of references won't include the nuances of what the words actually mean in the text in which they are written.