The IDF have now raided the Kamal Adwan hospital

Each day a little bit of me breaks away as I watch from a distance what is happening in Gaza.

And the world wonders how 'terrorists' are born.

How would you feel if someone had justified October 7th by saying that israel deserved it because they provoked it by illegally occupying Palestinian land, beseiging Gaza and horrific crimes like taking and sexually abusing Palestinian children for throwing stones? The fact that you use October 7th as justification for genocide, complete destruction of a whole area and it's infrastructure and subjection of its population to conditions worst than anything I've ever seen is absolutely despicable. What a shameful comment.

Troops entered the building, did they find any Hamas members? Why would they fire on the hospital?

Anyone would think the IDF were simply targeting essential infrastructure in an attempt to deprive Palestinians of humanitarian assistance.

Perhaps both shouldn't commit war crimes.

Opinion | Israelis, indifferent to Gaza's destruction, are overloading on October 7 - Haaretz
By Carolina Landsmann Oct 25, 2024 01:29 AM

“That's how it is in war," say those looking for excuses when explaining the mass killings in Gaza, the wholesale attacks on women, children and the elderly, and the sheer absolute devastation. Just like the concept of "context," the expression "that's how it is in war" is a privilege reserved for Israel only. Anyone daring to comment on the acts committed by Hamas on October 7 and say "that's how it is in war" will be reviled as no less than a traitor…..”

”….But as we succumb to victimhood, we, via the Israel Defense Forces, are striking our assailant with all our might, hitting his bleeding face, riddling his body with bullets even after he has long been dead by our hands.
If this were a movie, a friend would have seized our hand, held onto our shoulders, shaking and yelling at us to bring us out of the trance we were in: "Enough, he's dead." As one Hebrew song goes, "I haven't said enough." Israel isn't succeeding, and may never succeed, in knowing when it's sufficient, in knowing how to reach the conclusion on its own that it's time to stop. The fact that it is determined to continue the war and even expand it toward Iran after the death of Sinwar - the architect of October 7, our perfect enemy - bolsters the sense that Israel lacks the internal strength required for stopping itself. It doesn't know when to stop. "I haven't killed enough," to paraphrase that song.

I once wrote that there is no amount of food that will satiate a person eating out of anxiety.

Israel is fighting as if it were in an anxiety-driven frenzy. There is therefore no amount of military achievements and fatalities that would provide it with a sense of victory. At the same time, it is operating a mechanism which constantly creates anxiety, in the fashion of the Yad Vashem Holocaust Remembrance Center. This is a dangerous combination. If Israel isn't stopped, it will gorge itself to death on Palestinian blood.”

Perhaps one lot of people should not provoke a war by attacking another lot of people in the first place.

They’re talking about the oxygen generator, not the tanks of oxygen. This has happened everywhere IDF have raided and destroyed hospitals. It kills all the newborns in the NICU. IDF also target water tanks, solar panels and the electricity generators that run on diesel fuel.

However, tanks later returned to the surrounding area and opened fire at the hospital, hitting its oxygen stores, before troops began a raid and ordered staff and patients to leave, he added.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz0m4xlg093o.amp

..."hit oxygen stores in the hospital". Had this been true not sure anyone would be around to tell about it.

Channel 4 news tonight was hard to watch. It very much felt like watching genocide in real time. And that's certainly what the editorial team was hinting.

Spot on

@GhostCicada talk about saying the quiet bit out loud... And these are the people chosen in democratic elections to govern...

The fact that people support this - the fact that parents support this - is really rather scary.

I don't understand how you think people are 'blindly blaming' the IDF? We've listened to what Israel have to say, below are some quotes as examples but there are many more. I think the intentions are quite clear? What is so 'blind' about listening to Israeli representatives? Are supposed think that it's just a coincidence that their actions match their words?

“We are now rolling out the Gaza Nakba,” Israeli security cabinet member and Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter declared. “Gaza Nakba 2023. That’s how it’ll end.”

Deputy Knesset speaker Nissim Vaturi from the ruling Likud party wrote on X, that Israelis had one common goal, “erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth.”

“We will eliminate everything - they will regret it,” Israel’s Defence Minister, Yoav Gallant said.

Amit Halevi, a Likud member in parliament, said, “There should be two goals for this victory: One, there is no more Muslim land in the land of Israel … After we make it the land of Israel, Gaza should be left as a monument, like Sodom”.

Ariel Kallner, a member of Israel’s parliament, said, “Nakba to the enemy now! This day is our Pearl Harbour. We will still learn the lessons. Right now, one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 48. A Nakba in Gaza and a Nakba for anyone who dares to join!”

@Scirocco should be applauded for their compassion, patience, integrity, balance and humanity. If those things are simple they also things we might all to aspire to.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-forces-abduct-teenage-activist-aboud-battah-kamal-adwan-hospital

If someone wants to attack a hospital, they should be able to defend that decision and have their decision-making hold up to scrutiny. And if someone has a track record of lying, they should expect people to ask for proof rather than taking their word for something. It's pretty simple.

What people are fed up with is "justifications" for a genocide, there is no justification.

Yes, when Israel have decided that no international observers are allowed in then we have to question what is it they are hiding? Notice also how they have tried to demand UN forces observing in Lebanon must leave, and have tried intimidation tactics on them.

@Scirocco sometimes I envy the simplicity of how you see things.

Well, if the IDF chooses to fire on hospital buildings and schools, they should probably be prepared for some less than entirely positive feedback about it.

If they have actual evidence to justify such actions, perhaps they should explain that and allow independent scrutiny and reporting - at this point, too many false accusations and fabrications mean statements of "but Hamas are there" lack credibility.