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The testimony of the Yazidi woman rescued from Gaza

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HermioneWeasley · 19/10/2024 08:42

I thought the atrocities of 7/10 were the worst thing I’d ever read about but her account of her treatment, particularly by ISIS, is beyond comprehension.

I only saw the headlines (I’m not usually one for content warnings but they were awful).

why is nobody talking about this? Why isn’t a board made up primarily of mothers talking about what she has described? Where is the condemnation?

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DonutRings · 20/10/2024 08:49

HermioneWeasley · 19/10/2024 09:55

And yet people march in support of Hamas every week in British cities. It’s incomprehensible

Oh stop being so disingenuous. People are marching to stop tens of thousands of civilians being wiped out by Israel. It's not in support of Hamas and you know it.

SharonEllis · 20/10/2024 08:45

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What a revealing post - if its in the Sun, I'll read it but you may have missed that I posted two other links. Are you disputing the story because its in the Sun?

Mehmeh22 · 20/10/2024 08:38

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Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 08:21

"Implicit in the goal of eliminating the Yazidi community is the idea that society would be better without them, which is common to all genocides, said former UN investigator Sareta Ashraph. The enslavement, for Isis, is meant to eventually bring the women to Islam, and is part of their ideology of conquest. “[It is] among the greatest forms of the honour of Islam and its sharia [Islamic law], as it is a clear affirmation showing the supremacy of the people of sharia, and the greatness of their affairs, and the dominance of their state, and the power of their might,” according to an Isis pamphlet on slavery."

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 08:19

"According to Isis, it has no choice but to attack and kill disbelieving men. Flowing from this, it justifies the enslaving of their women as an act of protection, a way of replacing the men who previously looked after them. This idea is crucial to the role of slavery in Isis’s conception of how a caliphate should function."

These extremist terrorist organisations are unbelievably vile.

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 08:18

Kakeandkake · 19/10/2024 22:32

The majority also believe that the UK should not be arming Israel. I don't think most people will find it hard to understand why that sentiment is felt so strongly.

You seem to have misposted on the incorrect thread?

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 08:17

"At first, the women and girls were taken to prearranged locations in Iraq where they were handed out to the Isis fighters who took part in the attack on Sinjar. To avoid being raped, some of the girls killed themselves by slitting their wrists or throats, or hanging themselves, or throwing themselves from buildings."

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 08:14

"The Yazidis are a majority-Kurdish-speaking religious group living mostly in northern Iraq. They number less than one million worldwide. The Yazidis, throughout their history, have been persecuted as infidels by Muslim rulers who demanded that they convert."

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 08:12

"The Yazidi women in Sinjar didn’t realise it yet, but the Isis fighters were carrying out a pre-planned mass abduction for the purpose of institutionalised rape. Initially they were looking for unmarried women and girls over eight."

Sick.

Wtfdude · 20/10/2024 08:02

HermioneWeasley · 19/10/2024 22:50

I saw it in several headlines and wish I hadn’t. I’m glad if other people haven’t seen it.

the depths to which ISIS have sunk. It’s inhuman, outside anything imaginable.

Maybe if they did they would actually talk about the Yazidi women on a thread about Yazidi women.

HermioneWeasley · 19/10/2024 22:50

Wtfdude · 19/10/2024 20:12

I don't think many people read that babies revelation OP...

I saw it in several headlines and wish I hadn’t. I’m glad if other people haven’t seen it.

the depths to which ISIS have sunk. It’s inhuman, outside anything imaginable.

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SharonEllis · 19/10/2024 22:48

Kakeandkake · 19/10/2024 22:32

The majority also believe that the UK should not be arming Israel. I don't think most people will find it hard to understand why that sentiment is felt so strongly.

The UK is not arming Israel. Israel buys a tiny proportion of its military equipment from the UK.

Kakeandkake · 19/10/2024 22:32

The majority also believe that the UK should not be arming Israel. I don't think most people will find it hard to understand why that sentiment is felt so strongly.

Kakeandkake · 19/10/2024 22:31

quantumbutterfly · 19/10/2024 22:29

The loudest voices do not necessarily represent the majority.

I cannot support the open antisemitism I've seen enabled by these marches.

The polls don't show the loudest voices, the polls show the majority. And the majority, currently do not support Israel's actions in Gaza.

quantumbutterfly · 19/10/2024 22:29

Silence1 · 19/10/2024 21:33

That's not what the marches are about.
But also the majority of British people do not support Israel's actions and the majority of British people do not believe that Israel can be trusted to act responsibly.
Now seeing as polls suggest the majority of Israeli's support their Govt's actions, it would seem that the UK and Israel are not on the same page anymore

The loudest voices do not necessarily represent the majority.

I cannot support the open antisemitism I've seen enabled by these marches.

Silence1 · 19/10/2024 21:33

username3678 · 19/10/2024 18:44

It is isn't it. The UK are meant to be allies of Israel why do you think they allow weekly marches in support of a terrorist group?

That's not what the marches are about.
But also the majority of British people do not support Israel's actions and the majority of British people do not believe that Israel can be trusted to act responsibly.
Now seeing as polls suggest the majority of Israeli's support their Govt's actions, it would seem that the UK and Israel are not on the same page anymore

Wtfdude · 19/10/2024 20:12

I don't think many people read that babies revelation OP...

SharonEllis · 19/10/2024 20:08

But not to support a proscribed terrorist organisation or to commit hate crimes which some protestors have undoubtedly done.

Martymcfly24 · 19/10/2024 20:05

The world has gone mad indeed.

Imagine being offended by people protesting against the daily slaughter of innocent civilians by a democratic state.

Mad.

username3678 · 19/10/2024 20:01

Martymcfly24 · 19/10/2024 19:58

It is legal to protest peacefully in the UK.

That must be it. I'm sure pro Taliban marches will be next. The world's gone mad!

Martymcfly24 · 19/10/2024 19:58

username3678 · 19/10/2024 18:44

It is isn't it. The UK are meant to be allies of Israel why do you think they allow weekly marches in support of a terrorist group?

It is legal to protest peacefully in the UK.

HermioneWeasley · 19/10/2024 19:36

@MaitreKarlsson its AMFAR

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MaitreKarlsson · 19/10/2024 19:30

Agree. OP please share the name of the charity you support.

Dulra · 19/10/2024 19:25

HermioneWeasley · 19/10/2024 19:12

Yes I heard of it and I have a monthly direct debit to a charity that supports Yazidi survivors.

I can’t speak for anyone else on this thread

Yes I think many have but not enough. I know through my work with refugees I have worked with a small number and it never ceases to amaze me how little people know about the atrocities being committed. Maybe people would be more accommodating of refugees if they did.

Dulra · 19/10/2024 19:20

SharonEllis · 19/10/2024 18:37

I'm not sure why you're finding this hard to understand. Noone is saying we had never heard of the Yazidi genocide. Some of us were pretty vocal about it at the time (I certainly was) but there is no doubt that it was a brief media obsession which fell from public consciousness pretty quickly and didnt result in weekly/monthly protest, occupation of buildings, protests in the National Gallery etc. The detail of the testimony of Fawzia Sido hasnt had the widespread detailed media coverage that you might expect especially when it gives such insight into Hamas before and after 7 October.

I'm not sure why you're finding this hard to understand.
Because the post was unclear I asked for clarification. The poster has clarified

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