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Hamas leader Sinwar dead

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Toomanywars · 17/10/2024 13:53

Reported just on Sky

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Whatsinanamehey · 17/10/2024 17:06

JackieLavertysFreezer · 17/10/2024 17:02

Confirmed by IDF.

If so I hope this is the start of the end of the war. Negotiate a deal and end the war. No more bombing schools like the one that was bombed this morning. End the massacre of the Palestinian people. End the rockets into Israel. Free the hostages and free the innocent Palestinians that are held unfairly by Israel. End the occupation and let this be the start of a two state solution. Allow the Palestinians the right of self determination with dignity.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 17/10/2024 17:04

Could they not have made an exchange - Sinwar for the hostages and end the war?

He'd already been released as part of the Gilad Schalit prisoner exchange, so I can understand the reluctance to let him have another crack at it.

JackieLavertysFreezer · 17/10/2024 17:02

Confirmed by IDF.

Auvergne63 · 17/10/2024 16:54

GhostCicada · 17/10/2024 14:25

Has it been confirmed? I know there have been rumblings for a while. I don't understand why Israel don't know the facts when their attacks are all very considered and targeted apparently. Like the link posted said that they killed 3 'terrorists' if you don't even know who they are how do you know that they are terrorists, do they wear badges? It's the same for all of these bombings, 9 terrorists killed, presumably they know the names of these people or else how do you know the people who you are targeting and killing are terrorists?

Anyway I don't think he is much of a loss if he is dead.

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Really good question! I am also not shedding tears if he is dead.

anotherlevel · 17/10/2024 16:53

Could they not have made an exchange - Sinwar for the hostages and end the war?

Daftasabroom · 17/10/2024 16:52

Toomanywars · 17/10/2024 14:05

Apparently some experts think there are not enough other senior enough leaders left to take over. Most of the command has been taken out. They suggested not enough to bring the terrorist organisation vack together.

Maybe a new government for the people of Gaza and a new start. Massive rebuilding needed (I realise an understatement).

Hoping for a ceasefire.

I've raised this a couple of times. If Israel does indeed take down Hamas, who in Gaza would be in any position to negotiate on behalf of the Palestinians? Would Israel just carry on looking for ever smaller targets? Would Gazans respect any settlement that was negotiated on their behalf? Would another regional power, or the 57 perhaps, be able to fill the void before Iran re-establishes it's hegemony?

Whatsinanamehey · 17/10/2024 16:48

Has it been confirmed?

Whatsinanamehey · 17/10/2024 16:47

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 17/10/2024 16:18

From reports, he was killed in a firefight not an airstrike:

https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1846922460156789194/photo/1

Please note the image is quite graphic.

That does seem to be him

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 17/10/2024 16:37

I'd love to have hope.
But it takes very cool, stable, and rational heads to even imagine the possibility of dipping a toe in the negotiation waters.
I just can't feel the warm fuzzies of diplomacy coming on. Believe me, I want to be so incredibly wrong.

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Toomanywars · 17/10/2024 16:26

User37482 · 17/10/2024 16:20

Good. Now hopefully they can withdraw from Gaza soon. Hopefully the Palestinian Authority can step in and start off negotiations on behalf of Gaza. I think the gulf kingdoms will try to leap in to help re-build to prevent Qatar from getting involved.

They probably want to find the rest of the hostages and then get on the off ramp.

Let's hope this helps towards a ceasefire, hostage release etc

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Toomanywars · 17/10/2024 16:25

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 17/10/2024 16:18

From reports, he was killed in a firefight not an airstrike:

https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1846922460156789194/photo/1

Please note the image is quite graphic.

It looks like him from the partial image

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User37482 · 17/10/2024 16:21

Fingers crossed whats left of Hamas will just turn over hostages soon so everyone can just stop.

User37482 · 17/10/2024 16:20

Good. Now hopefully they can withdraw from Gaza soon. Hopefully the Palestinian Authority can step in and start off negotiations on behalf of Gaza. I think the gulf kingdoms will try to leap in to help re-build to prevent Qatar from getting involved.

They probably want to find the rest of the hostages and then get on the off ramp.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 17/10/2024 16:18

From reports, he was killed in a firefight not an airstrike:

https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1846922460156789194/photo/1

Please note the image is quite graphic.

x.com

https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1846922460156789194/photo/1

SharonEllis · 17/10/2024 15:54

Whatsinanamehey · 17/10/2024 15:27

Is it him? I thought the IDF have been saying he's in a tunnel hiding with the hostages and using them as shields which is why they cant get them?

You don't think its possible that he might have moved occasionally over the last 12 months? I've never heard that they think all the hostages are together either. All the ones we know about have been in various different places.

Whatsinanamehey · 17/10/2024 15:52

Whatsinanamehey · 17/10/2024 15:27

Is it him? I thought the IDF have been saying he's in a tunnel hiding with the hostages and using them as shields which is why they cant get them?

Well the news coming out now indicates a strong possibility it was him. So the Israeli story that he is hiding amongst hostages doesn't really check out and maybe they can actually negotiate a deal and end the war now.

ButterfliesnWaterfalls · 17/10/2024 15:30

Wait… if Netanyahu died… would that end the Israeli occupation of Gaza?

Chowtime · 17/10/2024 15:30

I thought he was in Jordan

Whatsinanamehey · 17/10/2024 15:27

Is it him? I thought the IDF have been saying he's in a tunnel hiding with the hostages and using them as shields which is why they cant get them?

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Toomanywars · 17/10/2024 15:22

Dulra · 17/10/2024 14:18

Let's hope it's true, one less evil maniac in the world. Let's hope it leads to a ceasefire, hostage release and interim support and advocacy for Palestinian people to navigate them out of this mess and start healing 🙏

Let's hope so.

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Mercurial123 · 17/10/2024 14:53

Circumferences · 17/10/2024 14:26

Will Israel stop killing innocent civilians now

No.

Zimunya · 17/10/2024 14:51

Circumferences · 17/10/2024 14:26

Will Israel stop killing innocent civilians now

Here's hoping.

VisitationRights · 17/10/2024 14:50

Just waiting for the confirmation. Hoping this can lead to the end of the war, return of all hostages, and rebuilding.

anotherlevel · 17/10/2024 14:37

Apparently it's not been confirmed and they're checking if he is.

news.sky.com/story/israeli-military-says-it-is-checking-possibility-it-has-killed-hamas-leader-yahya-sinwar-13235269

He is/was the main target for Israel so now with him possibly gone will the bombing of Gaza ease up? Will negotiations for a hostage release be possible?

Circumferences · 17/10/2024 14:26

Will Israel stop killing innocent civilians now

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