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Conflict in the Middle East

Hamas leader Sinwar dead

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Toomanywars · 17/10/2024 13:53

Reported just on Sky

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Martymcfly24 · 17/10/2024 19:35

1dayatatime · 17/10/2024 19:22

@Dulra

"Because the majority of countries aren't denying it is happening or financing it in any way so doesn't attract the same level of debate when all are in agreement that it is horrific"

I don't think anyone is denying the conflict or casualties in Gaza and it certainly has greater media coverage than the conflict in Sudan.

Also there are plenty of other countries financing/ getting involved in Sudan, in particular the UAE, Egypt and Iran.

But I think you have a point that there is little Western involvement thereby reducing the interest of the self hating Western protesters. Plus of course the fact that the majority of the victims of the war and slavery are black and Christian that just like in Nigeria no one seems that interested in.

Do you believe all the reports/figures that comes from the 'lying Hamas health ministry '?

I think people are denying it this post was on the previous page.

1dayatatime · 17/10/2024 19:25

@Limesodaagain

"Let’s hope the war will scale down radically and focus on finding the hostages and defeating individual Hamas fighters rather than bombing civilians."

Let's also hope that Israel takes the opportunity to get a significant amount of aid into Northern Gaza.

Catatonican · 17/10/2024 19:24

movingonok · 17/10/2024 19:23

This sends a clear message to anyone who would want to replicate 7 October attacks and hopefully means similar will never happen again.

What exactly did 7 October gain for him or any of his followers? Stupid man.

A whole new generation of followers and more people to hate the Isreali regime.

movingonok · 17/10/2024 19:23

This sends a clear message to anyone who would want to replicate 7 October attacks and hopefully means similar will never happen again.

What exactly did 7 October gain for him or any of his followers? Stupid man.

1dayatatime · 17/10/2024 19:22

@Dulra

"Because the majority of countries aren't denying it is happening or financing it in any way so doesn't attract the same level of debate when all are in agreement that it is horrific"

I don't think anyone is denying the conflict or casualties in Gaza and it certainly has greater media coverage than the conflict in Sudan.

Also there are plenty of other countries financing/ getting involved in Sudan, in particular the UAE, Egypt and Iran.

But I think you have a point that there is little Western involvement thereby reducing the interest of the self hating Western protesters. Plus of course the fact that the majority of the victims of the war and slavery are black and Christian that just like in Nigeria no one seems that interested in.

Catatonican · 17/10/2024 19:22

Limesodaagain · 17/10/2024 19:16

@Catatonican Is that what you feel for Israel and for Jews? Hate?

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My hatred is reserved for the leaders of Hamas and the leaders of the Israeli government.

But anecdotally, friends and acquaintances both here in the UK, mainland Europe and the ME/NA, whatever their political afflictions, seem to HATE what Israel is doing and they use Israel/Jew interchangeably. I even know people who are boycotting Israel brands. My sibling who works for a large bank is part of a group petitioning their employer to stop funding Israeli linked companies using an ESG angle given they are yet to suffer any global sanctions. This won't end well.

Limesodaagain · 17/10/2024 19:16

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@Catatonican Is that what you feel for Israel and for Jews? Hate?

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Limesodaagain · 17/10/2024 19:15

Catatonican · 17/10/2024 19:12

Netanyahu just announced in a press conference that the war will continue

Let’s hope the war will scale down radically and focus on finding the hostages and defeating individual Hamas fighters rather than bombing civilians.

Liv999 · 17/10/2024 19:15

LetThereBeLove · 17/10/2024 19:11

Please point us in the direction of where this has been stated.

What @catatonican said

EasterIssland · 17/10/2024 19:14

LetThereBeLove · 17/10/2024 19:11

Please point us in the direction of where this has been stated.

Bbc

We've just been hearing from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who describes Sinwar as having been behind “the worst massacre in our people’s history since the Holocaust".
He says that, while Israel "settled the score with him”, the "task before us is still not complete” - as Israel will continue its fight until the hostages are brought home.
Addressing people in Gaza, Netanyahu says "Sinwar destroyed your lives" and that now that he is dead “Hamas will no longer control" the territory, describing this as as an opportunity for them to free themselves "from its tyranny".
“The return of our hostages is an opportunity to achieve all our goals and brings us closer to the end of the war,” he says

Catatonican · 17/10/2024 19:12

LetThereBeLove · 17/10/2024 19:11

Please point us in the direction of where this has been stated.

Netanyahu just announced in a press conference that the war will continue

LetThereBeLove · 17/10/2024 19:11

Liv999 · 17/10/2024 19:09

That would be a no, they've already said the killing will continue

Please point us in the direction of where this has been stated.

TokyoSushi · 17/10/2024 19:10

Hopefully this will be the first step in a better direction, but I'm not holding my breath.

Israel has pretty much destroyed the whole of Gaza now, and taken out a lot of the Hamas leadership. If the hostages were returned, would they stop? I'm not so sure...

Limesodaagain · 17/10/2024 19:10

Catatonican · 17/10/2024 19:07

Excellent news re the killing of the Hamas leader. Israel's next move will be very revealing. Praying they stop the genocide (but we all know they won't, this was never just about Hamas).

Yes to the first sentence but your third sentence is unjustified.

Liv999 · 17/10/2024 19:09

Circumferences · 17/10/2024 14:26

Will Israel stop killing innocent civilians now

That would be a no, they've already said the killing will continue

Catatonican · 17/10/2024 19:07

Excellent news re the killing of the Hamas leader. Israel's next move will be very revealing. Praying they stop the genocide (but we all know they won't, this was never just about Hamas).

Limesodaagain · 17/10/2024 19:07

I so hope the news about Sinwar’s death marks a turning point for the better.

Toomanywars · 17/10/2024 19:06

VisitationRights · 17/10/2024 18:52

Just saw on Twitter “Netanyahu offers immunity to any Gazan who releases the hostages.”

Wow, I hope this helps

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JaneJeffer · 17/10/2024 19:04

VisitationRights · 17/10/2024 18:59

Nice antisemitism there, you assume I only hold this view because you think I am Jewish. I am not.

This makes zero sense @VisitationRights

Limesodaagain · 17/10/2024 19:03

Dulra · 17/10/2024 18:03

Seriously you're using a propaganda article to accuse a poster of using propaganda

Why do you say this publication is propaganda?

Dulra · 17/10/2024 19:02

VisitationRights · 17/10/2024 18:59

Nice antisemitism there, you assume I only hold this view because you think I am Jewish. I am not.

Didn't assume you were Jewish just think it's a narcissistic stand point to assume no one could care about the people of Gaza

LetThereBeLove · 17/10/2024 19:02

Do you believe all the reports/figures that comes from the 'lying Hamas health ministry '?

Toomanywars · 17/10/2024 19:02

User37482 · 17/10/2024 18:13

I’m sure there will be a legal ruling on whether it was a genocide or not. I am also hoping that people will now have more bandwidth to look at Sudan.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/11/world-humanitarian-disaster-sudan

It's generally been forgotten. Dreadfully sad .

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VisitationRights · 17/10/2024 19:01

https://x.com/yaelbt/status/1846964929762357706

he died yesterday, apparently.

  1. This all happened yesterday, infantry soldiers identified 3 terrorists in a building near the tunnels where the 6 murdered hostages were found. The soldiers (who were assigned to a training base) engaged in battle and killed the terrorists, but they did not know who they were fighting. Later the bodies were inspected by drones and one looked familiar... 2. At first the body wasn't removed for fear it could be booby trapped, so Sinwar's finger was removed in order to make the identification. It was confirmed later via dental records. 3. It's believed now that the 6 hostages who were murdered in August were kept around Sinwar as human shields, til he deemed they were slowing him down and gave an order to kill them. 4. This isn't just about revenge or justice - there is a huge opportunity now to release the remaining hostages, for whatever is left of Hxmxs to surrender - and end this war.

x.com

https://x.com/yaelbt/status/1846964929762357706