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UN peacekeepers injured by Israel

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EasterIssland · 10/10/2024 13:04

After all the news this week regarding IDF threatening peacekeepers in Lebanon this is news now.

from bbc

Two UN peacekeepers injured after Israeli tank fires at watchtowerpublished at 12:50 British Summer Time
12:50 BSTBREAKING
Two UN peacekeepers have been injured after an Israeli tank fired towards a watchtower at a UN base in southern Lebanon, the UN says.
According to a statement by the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL), the observation tower at its headquarters in Naqoura was directly hit, causing the peacekeepers to fall.
"The injuries are fortunately, this time, not serious, but they remain in hospital," the UN says.
It adds that Israeli soldiers also fired at a UN base in Ras Naqoura, "hitting the entrance to the bunker where peacekeepers were sheltering, and damaging vehicles and a communications system".
There's more in their statement which we'll bring you shortly.
UNIFIL is a UN peacekeeping mission created in 1978. It monitors hostilities and helps to ensure humanitarian access to civilians.

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PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 14:15

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Scirocco · 11/10/2024 14:14

Please try to respect that in discussions here.

Scirocco · 11/10/2024 14:14

@PollyPaintsFlowers there are several people on this board who have close personal links with the region. This isn't an abstract or distant thing for us. These are places and people we love being hurt because hate-filled (mostly) men value power and blood over peace and the lives of our children.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 14:13

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Scirocco · 11/10/2024 14:04

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Sigh.

I'm a healthcare professional who has worked in Gaza as well as other combat and disaster zones. I have friends in Gaza, West Bank, Israel and Lebanon at the moment. Over the past year I have spoken about this on this board, repeatedly.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 14:03

"Nobody here is suggesting countries shouldn't protect their people. What we're saying is that countries shouldn't behave like this while doing so."

It's urban warfare with militants hiding amongst and disguising themselves as civilians. I can't imagine how challenging that's going to be so I'm not going to judge

If you want to understand the mindset they're up against go on Youtube and watch the videos of summer camps in Gaza where they train children into being mini jihadists

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:59

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Scirocco · 11/10/2024 13:57

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:52

"So why are your posts deflecting away from the severity of that wrongdoing? Why are you suggesting the IDF be allowed to continue these actions?"

I said Israel should continue doing its job of protecting its people

Nobody here is suggesting countries shouldn't protect their people. What we're saying is that countries shouldn't behave like this while doing so.

Scirocco · 11/10/2024 13:56

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:51

"Your response seems somewhat disconnected from the question."

Does it? It seemed a mainly pointless question. People die in wars, it's not murder. Journalists have been killed, some have been found to be forward spotters for Hamas militants. Spotters were taken out in the Iraq war aswell. If there has been unlawful killings that's what military tribunals are for.

You said the IDF should be allowed to do "its job". The things I mentioned are things that have been confirmed to have been carried out by the IDF as part of their activities. Should we not criticise these things?

And by murder, I refer to such situations as using zipties to restrain unarmed healthcare professionals before shooting them in the head. Which has happened. That happened to my friends. That's murder.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:52

"So why are your posts deflecting away from the severity of that wrongdoing? Why are you suggesting the IDF be allowed to continue these actions?"

I said Israel should continue doing its job of protecting its people

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:51

"Your response seems somewhat disconnected from the question."

Does it? It seemed a mainly pointless question. People die in wars, it's not murder. Journalists have been killed, some have been found to be forward spotters for Hamas militants. Spotters were taken out in the Iraq war aswell. If there has been unlawful killings that's what military tribunals are for.

Scirocco · 11/10/2024 13:51

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:48

I think it's wrong

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So why are your posts deflecting away from the severity of that wrongdoing? Why are you suggesting the IDF be allowed to continue these actions?

Scirocco · 11/10/2024 13:48

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:23

"Does "its job" include shooting at peacekeepers and their bases? What about all the other minor issues like murder, occupation, killing children, seizing land, targeting healthcare professionals and journalists, torturing people, withholding aid and funds, etc, etc?"

There's literally videos online posted by Palestinians showing Hamas seizing 35 out of 36 aid trucks, another showing civilians breaking into a building owned by Hamas and finding towers of aid being stockpiled

Your response seems somewhat disconnected from the question.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:48

Scirocco · 11/10/2024 13:47

@PollyPaintsFlowers the IDF have deliberately attacked UN peacekeepers. What's your opinion on that?

I think it's wrong

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:48

"Spreading lies and propaganda is not helping your argument. We can all read and watch the news and listen to independent reports on what is causing the lack of humanitarian aid in Gaza. Don't take us for fools."

Lies and propaganda that Palestinians have filmed themselves? You've proved your last sentence correct

And about the news

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bbc-israel-hamas-coverage-breached-171246736.html?guccounter=1&gucereferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guceereferrersig=AQAAABwc-Nw4gK8Ld5RPSJy5AmWRaYvS3fBSSkid7YjjEX0ft65HicO2fAr9GLJRP0byVyOr2i9g3KR8RKTUf5b9lB8JHHel9BPCTwPVPQ0UzlcSQMI9LtQ7E-KFXXcFcv1vAlEfXnlzBUgjN1Q0MlcQJ8gS6lDlMjj63IR5Zv9vSg

Scirocco · 11/10/2024 13:47

@PollyPaintsFlowers the IDF have deliberately attacked UN peacekeepers. What's your opinion on that?

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EasterIssland · 11/10/2024 13:46

Dulra · 11/10/2024 13:44

Beat you to it 😁

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Used to the derailments in order to hide Israel’s actions. And I’d prefer if the threads didn’t descend into fights between posters as the threads end up being pulled away by MNHQ and the reality hidden

(there was another thread about peacekeepers that got deleted because of the above a few days ago)

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VictoryPending · 11/10/2024 13:45

*@PurpleChrayn "Precisely.

Yet another thread demonising Israel."*

Would you say the same thing if Hamas intentionally killed them? Or would you be outraged that they had?

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:45

The IDF have posted videos of Hamas tunnels in schools and hospitals but Hamas have denied it so that's ok 🙄

The UN is hardly independent anyway

www.reuters.com/article/world/us-quits-un-human-rights-body-citing-bias-vs-israel-alarming-critics-idUSKBN1JF25F/

www.newsweek.com/can-un-finally-cease-its-relentless-anti-israel-bias-opinion-1626838

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/10/uns-anti-israel-bias-must-be-addressed-for-sake-of-humanity/

Antonio Gutteres was hanging out with Arafat and Abu Jihad right back in the 70s!

I don't know what happened with Hind, that was an absolute tragedy

UN peacekeepers injured by Israel
username3678 · 11/10/2024 13:45

The Taoiseach (Irish Prime Minister) Simon Harris has described Israel’s attack on UN peacekeepers in Lebanon as a breach of international law.

Speaking to BBC News in Washington DC, Harris said it was an "extraordinarily concerning development".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0g2ge1k81o.amp

Go Ireland ✊

Dulra · 11/10/2024 13:44

EasterIssland · 11/10/2024 13:44

also, this is about IDF firing at UN peacekeepers. There are threads about Hamas where these comments are more than welcome.

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Beat you to it 😁

Lettherebejustice · 11/10/2024 13:44

@PollyPaintsFlowers how can you defend what even the US have grudgingly criticised. Or are you just refusing to see the truth?

Israel needs to address urgently "catastrophic conditions" among Palestinian civilians in the besieged Gaza Strip and stop "intensifying suffering" by limiting aid deliveries, its ally the United States told the U.N. Security Council on Wednesday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-calls-out-israel-un-catastrophic-conditions-gaza-2024-10-09/

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EasterIssland · 11/10/2024 13:44

Dulra · 11/10/2024 13:42

Spreading lies and propaganda is not helping your argument. We can all read and watch the news and listen to independent reports on what is causing the lack of humanitarian aid in Gaza. Don't take us for fools.

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also, this is about IDF firing at UN peacekeepers. There are threads about Hamas where these comments are more than welcome.

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Dulra · 11/10/2024 13:44

This thread is meant to be about the UN peacekeepers in Lebanon. Let's try and stick to that rather than rehash old arguments that have been discussed at length on these boards

Dulra · 11/10/2024 13:42

PollyPaintsFlowers · 11/10/2024 13:37

"This is exaggerating and not helpful at all. There were not 35 out of 36 aid trucks taken by Hamas.

The hostages have nearly starved too incidentally with lack of food."

How do you know? Do you have insider knowledge that's more accurate than the Palestinians filming it?

Any lack of food is down to the thefts by Hamas, Palestinians have been posting videos themselves

Regardless of aid, I don't think the hostages welfare is high on the list of priorities for Hamas considering six were murdered when they were close to being rescued

Spreading lies and propaganda is not helping your argument. We can all read and watch the news and listen to independent reports on what is causing the lack of humanitarian aid in Gaza. Don't take us for fools.