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UN peacekeepers injured by Israel

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EasterIssland · 10/10/2024 13:04

After all the news this week regarding IDF threatening peacekeepers in Lebanon this is news now.

from bbc

Two UN peacekeepers injured after Israeli tank fires at watchtowerpublished at 12:50 British Summer Time
12:50 BSTBREAKING
Two UN peacekeepers have been injured after an Israeli tank fired towards a watchtower at a UN base in southern Lebanon, the UN says.
According to a statement by the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL), the observation tower at its headquarters in Naqoura was directly hit, causing the peacekeepers to fall.
"The injuries are fortunately, this time, not serious, but they remain in hospital," the UN says.
It adds that Israeli soldiers also fired at a UN base in Ras Naqoura, "hitting the entrance to the bunker where peacekeepers were sheltering, and damaging vehicles and a communications system".
There's more in their statement which we'll bring you shortly.
UNIFIL is a UN peacekeeping mission created in 1978. It monitors hostilities and helps to ensure humanitarian access to civilians.

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PollyPaintsFlowers · 12/10/2024 19:19

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mouthpipette · 12/10/2024 19:11

@PollyPaintsFlowers
No, of course not at any cost, but do you see any kind of peace possible with two terrorist groups constantly attacking Israel and Israel attacking back?

Iran has said it will stop firing at Israel if there's a ceasefire in Gaza.
Hezbollah have said they will stop launching missiles at Israel if there's a ceasefire in Gaza.
Hamas have said they will stop firing at Israel if there's a ceasefire in Gaza.

The stumbling block is Israel, who insist on continuing their campaign in Gaza which has little or no hope of completely eradicating Hamas, and which is also radicalising a whole new generation of Israel-haters amongst the Palestinians.

A ceasefire is the first step to peace.

Israel continuing its military campaign, isn't.

EasterIssland · 12/10/2024 19:02

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Think you forgot to add irony off at the end of your comment r

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Dulra · 12/10/2024 18:59

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It’s disgusting that UNFIL didn’t move their troops when Israel requested them to isn’t it?
No it's not disgusting! Israel have no authority over those troops they are not answerable to Israel and are there as peace keepers

Got to wonder why and what their agenda is
What are you implying here?

It’s likely these injuries would have been avoided
Yes if the IDF didn't fire on them.

as they’ve done fuck all to maintain peace in the region and prevent terrorist weaponry being used in the area considering rockets have been fired from Lebanon into Israel for the last 12 months.
How the hell do you know what they've done. They are there as peace keepers not peace enforcers, they are there to report on what activity they are witnessing in the region and to protect civilians.

Their mandate is not to impose peace but monitor peace. Clearly they're doing something right if the IDF wants to intimidate them to leave

PollyPaintsFlowers · 12/10/2024 18:55

No, of course not at any cost, but do you see any kind of peace possible with two terrorist groups constantly attacking Israel and Israel attacking back?

mouthpipette · 12/10/2024 18:53

PollyPaintsFlowers · 12/10/2024 18:28

Seeing as those terrorist groups are committed to destroying Israel and have stated so many times publicly, I think there's a better chance of peace with them gone

Gone at any cost ?
Or is there a limit as to how far you would go in your mission of having them gone?

FunkyDancer · 12/10/2024 18:51

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PollyPaintsFlowers · 12/10/2024 18:28

Seeing as those terrorist groups are committed to destroying Israel and have stated so many times publicly, I think there's a better chance of peace with them gone

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RevelryMum · 12/10/2024 16:02

Where do we all see this leading I don't pretend to be very well informed but from what I'm seeing and reading Isreal are trying to drag America into a war with Iran ? Trump if he was re-elected might just do it ?

I believe Israel wants to get rid off Palestine and the Palestinians either through death or ethnic cleansing.

They want a regime change in Iran and want to 'destroy' terrorist groups in the area. They think this will bring peace.

RevelryMum · 12/10/2024 16:02

Where do we all see this leading I don't pretend to be very well informed but from what I'm seeing and reading Isreal are trying to drag America into a war with Iran ? Trump if he was re-elected might just do it ?

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EasterIssland · 12/10/2024 15:53

Bbc
Fifth peacekeeper wounded in southern Lebanon, says Unifilpublished at 14:54 British Summer Time
14:54 BSTBREAKING
A fifth UN peacekeeper has been wounded in southern Lebanon after being hit by gunfire, the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) says.
In a new statement, Unifil says a peacekeeper at its headquarters in the southern city of Naquora was injured on Friday night amid "ongoing military activity nearby".
"He underwent surgery at our Naqoura hospital to remove the bullet and is currently stable," it says.
"We do not yet know the origin of the fire."
Separately, Unifil adds that buildings at a UN position in the village of Ramyah sustained "significant damage due to explosions from nearby shelling" on Friday night.
"We remind all actors of their obligations to ensure the safety and security of UN personnel and premises, including avoiding combat activities near Unifil positions," it says.

Israel want them out and will continue to attack them.

EasterIssland · 12/10/2024 15:53

Bbc
Fifth peacekeeper wounded in southern Lebanon, says Unifilpublished at 14:54 British Summer Time
14:54 BSTBREAKING
A fifth UN peacekeeper has been wounded in southern Lebanon after being hit by gunfire, the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) says.
In a new statement, Unifil says a peacekeeper at its headquarters in the southern city of Naquora was injured on Friday night amid "ongoing military activity nearby".
"He underwent surgery at our Naqoura hospital to remove the bullet and is currently stable," it says.
"We do not yet know the origin of the fire."
Separately, Unifil adds that buildings at a UN position in the village of Ramyah sustained "significant damage due to explosions from nearby shelling" on Friday night.
"We remind all actors of their obligations to ensure the safety and security of UN personnel and premises, including avoiding combat activities near Unifil positions," it says.

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Auvergne63 · 12/10/2024 08:47

1dayatatime · 11/10/2024 21:47

It's largely irrelevant political posturing by Macron. France only sells 30 million euros of military equipment to Israel anyway and Macron said France will continue to sell defensive weapons to Israel.

Still I guess he may pick up some future votes from it

Irrelevant? You may believe this but it is a significant in the sense that France has now been joined by Spain and Italy ( of all countries!) to call for an embargo of weapons used in the slaughter of civilians both in Gaza and Lebanon. I hope other countries will do the same.
I am also glad that we sell very little ammunition to Israel. Being complicit in the murder of thousands of innocents would be a stain on our nation.
69 000 French civilians died between 1940 and 1945.
42 000 ( so far) in Gaza in a year.
Please could you explain to me how this is in self defence? I fail to see it.

Lettherebejustice · 11/10/2024 21:57

I don't believe his intentions are malicious and France is still a strong ally. I personally think this is the right call although you may disagree.

Lettherebejustice · 11/10/2024 21:55

1dayatatime · 11/10/2024 21:47

It's largely irrelevant political posturing by Macron. France only sells 30 million euros of military equipment to Israel anyway and Macron said France will continue to sell defensive weapons to Israel.

Still I guess he may pick up some future votes from it

It's possible you are right but I feel Macron has been increasingly critical for awhile now. France and the US were leading the efforts for a truce between Israel and Lebanon and both expressed their frustration when Netanyahu refused.

Macrons reasoning to ask other countries to stop an offensive arms embargo (as you correctly pointed out, not defensive) is he believes this is the only way to end the war(s)

His exact words were:
"We have reiterated the need for a ceasefire, and this ceasefire is essential both in Gaza and in Lebanon.
"It is necessary now both for our hostages and the civilian population who are victims of the violence, and to avoid regional contamination.
"This is why France has called for an end to the export of weapons used in these theatres of war... we all know that this is the only way to put an end to it."

1dayatatime · 11/10/2024 21:47

It's largely irrelevant political posturing by Macron. France only sells 30 million euros of military equipment to Israel anyway and Macron said France will continue to sell defensive weapons to Israel.

Still I guess he may pick up some future votes from it

Auvergne63 · 11/10/2024 20:48

EasterIssland · 11/10/2024 20:42

I’m not a 100% fan of Sanchez or the party they govern with. I wish they stopped selling arms to Israel like they’ve said they’d. But glad it’s him and not tories or far right.
im glad to see that Italy who is governed by a right - far right party has joint Spain and France in this statement.

I was also surprised by Italy joining in. Meanwhile, Germany is selling more weapons...

EasterIssland · 11/10/2024 20:42

Auvergne63 · 11/10/2024 20:39

I am not a big fan of Macron but credit when credit is due.

I’m not a 100% fan of Sanchez or the party they govern with. I wish they stopped selling arms to Israel like they’ve said they’d. But glad it’s him and not tories or far right.
im glad to see that Italy who is governed by a right - far right party has joint Spain and France in this statement.

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Auvergne63 · 11/10/2024 20:39

Lettherebejustice · 11/10/2024 19:52

Macron has repeated his calls for arms embargo today after UN peacekeepers were fired at a second time. He also said this was done deliberately.
Biden said he's asked Israel not to do it again, bless him, he thinks that should do the trick.

I am not a big fan of Macron but credit when credit is due.

Lettherebejustice · 11/10/2024 20:07

The joint statement by France, Spain and Italy which is strongly condemning the IDF for attacking UNIFIL:

www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/france-italy-spain-condemn-targeting-unifil-by-idf-joint-statement-2024-10-11/

Lettherebejustice · 11/10/2024 19:52

Macron has repeated his calls for arms embargo today after UN peacekeepers were fired at a second time. He also said this was done deliberately.
Biden said he's asked Israel not to do it again, bless him, he thinks that should do the trick.

EasterIssland · 11/10/2024 19:33

The guardian

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has confirmed it was responsible for wounding two UN peacekeepers in Lebanon on Friday.
The UN peacekeepers were injured by an Israeli strike near their observation tower in south Lebanon, after Israeli forces “identified an immediate threat” and “responded with fire toward the threat”, according to the IDF. Their statement continues:
An initial examination indicates that during the incident, a hit was identified on a Unifil post, located approximately 50 meters (yards) from the source of the threat, resulting in the injury of two Unifil personnel.
The watchtower that came under Israeli fire on Friday is located at the mission’s main base in Naqoura.

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VictoryPending · 11/10/2024 16:43

PeasfullPerson · 11/10/2024 16:33

No need to worry! I’ve just read, that the world's most moral army, will be investigated by the world’s most moral government, and this sort of action will surely never happen again!

The US can therefore, with a clean conscience, keep sending bombs to the great democratic Israel, which they will use to blow up civilians, while shooting humanitarian workers and peace keepers, safe in the knowledge there will be zero meaningful consequences.

Most people by now have worked out that if you don’t agree with killing civilians and destroying infrastructure, because terrorists, then you must be anti-Israel and are seen as the enemy.

Phew I was getting worried there

PeasfullPerson · 11/10/2024 16:33

No need to worry! I’ve just read, that the world's most moral army, will be investigated by the world’s most moral government, and this sort of action will surely never happen again!

The US can therefore, with a clean conscience, keep sending bombs to the great democratic Israel, which they will use to blow up civilians, while shooting humanitarian workers and peace keepers, safe in the knowledge there will be zero meaningful consequences.

Most people by now have worked out that if you don’t agree with killing civilians and destroying infrastructure, because terrorists, then you must be anti-Israel and are seen as the enemy.