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What would Keir Starmer do if a group of Norwegians supported by the Norwegian government invaded tomorrow killing thousands?

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itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 20:17

Raping them, brining children, taking hostages then held them for a year. Then promised they would do it again and again any time they had the power or chance.

Do you think we'd invade Norway?

Do you think we'd have domestic or international support?

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Zimunya · 09/10/2024 12:58

Katiesaidthat · 09/10/2024 12:23

And you would be totally justified. But if the person who thought out these attacks were hiding in Amsterdam, you perhaps would get some raised eyebrows if you flattened whole swathes of the city with bombs, rained missiles on their hospitals, gave warning that whole neighbourhoods had to be evacuated and then rained a few more missiles on the evacuees in supposedly safe areas. "Well, we are looking to kill one person" wouldn´t cut it.
This scenario is only possible in certain areas of the world, and definitely, Europe isn´t one of them.

Well said.

Zimunya · 09/10/2024 12:55

Hellomateyboy · 08/10/2024 22:53

Slightly off topic but was ‘brining children’ a typo?

Thank you for asking this! I also wondered what the point of brining the kids was. Also, as an invading force, you'd have to carry an awful lot of salt for that......

Comedycook · 09/10/2024 12:49

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:47

As is usual on these threads, misunderstanding.

Just read what I said.

I never said you said otherwise. I was just agreeing war is awful.

Oh i see...I misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying.

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:47

Comedycook · 09/10/2024 12:38

Yes I know. Where did I say otherwise ?What's your point?

As is usual on these threads, misunderstanding.

Just read what I said.

I never said you said otherwise. I was just agreeing war is awful.

Comedycook · 09/10/2024 12:38

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:36

War is awful.

Millions died in the world wars. MILLIONS.

Yes I know. Where did I say otherwise ?What's your point?

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:36

Comedycook · 09/10/2024 12:34

I actually think that if ww2 had happened today, we absolutely would not win...in fact, maybe no one would and it would just go on forever. The whole thing would be shown on social media and people would be up in arms at what they'd be seeing. War is ugly but pre the tech revolution, people were shielded from many of the sights unless they were directly affected.

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War is awful.

Millions died in the world wars. MILLIONS.

Comedycook · 09/10/2024 12:34

I actually think that if ww2 had happened today, we absolutely would not win...in fact, maybe no one would and it would just go on forever. The whole thing would be shown on social media and people would be up in arms at what they'd be seeing. War is ugly but pre the tech revolution, people were shielded from many of the sights unless they were directly affected.

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:32

Back in the days of the vikings we didn't have the means to attack back.

The Spanish Armada we fought back.

We fought the French.

More recent history we fought the Germans who invaded France and launched attacks against various countries including us.

Dinosaurlover · 09/10/2024 12:31

Whatever our response would be, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't involve committing genocide.

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:30

I guess we have a previous example of a response that is more recent.

September 11th. Thousands died. The US then launched their war on terror. Eventually they tracked down the then leader and killed him.

MadeleineMummy · 09/10/2024 12:27

itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 20:17

Raping them, brining children, taking hostages then held them for a year. Then promised they would do it again and again any time they had the power or chance.

Do you think we'd invade Norway?

Do you think we'd have domestic or international support?

I think the Norwegians used to do that, taking away women and children as slaves and slaughtering men or taking the holy men back as slaves as well as raping them. I am certain the situation was not resolved by invading them back and killing them all as well as spreading the warfare to other Norwegian supporters such as Denmark, Sweden and Iceland.

Katiesaidthat · 09/10/2024 12:23

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:11

Forget Norway.

However, should any country said their terrorists here to rape, torture and kidnap people from Glastonbury and from villages we would respond.

I can't imagine any country telling us not to. To sit back and do nothing.

Should a couple of other surrounding countries celebrate the attack on us and then start firing missiles at us, then we would respond to those as well.

And you would be totally justified. But if the person who thought out these attacks were hiding in Amsterdam, you perhaps would get some raised eyebrows if you flattened whole swathes of the city with bombs, rained missiles on their hospitals, gave warning that whole neighbourhoods had to be evacuated and then rained a few more missiles on the evacuees in supposedly safe areas. "Well, we are looking to kill one person" wouldn´t cut it.
This scenario is only possible in certain areas of the world, and definitely, Europe isn´t one of them.

JaninaDuszejko · 09/10/2024 12:19

Timeforaglassofwine · 08/10/2024 20:35

Can I say it first please everyone?

  • op, are you on glue?

Oh, very retro. Haven't seen that on here for years.

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:11

Forget Norway.

However, should any country said their terrorists here to rape, torture and kidnap people from Glastonbury and from villages we would respond.

I can't imagine any country telling us not to. To sit back and do nothing.

Should a couple of other surrounding countries celebrate the attack on us and then start firing missiles at us, then we would respond to those as well.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 08/10/2024 23:16

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 08/10/2024 20:19

What a stupid strawman argument. IGNORING all the history of the Palestinians and what they have been through to start with.

Not a stupid statement. FFS!

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 08/10/2024 23:15

itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 21:06

Invade Norway.

The UK would be completely incapable of launching a unilateral invasion of Norway even if it wanted to.

Utterly ridiculous analogy to begin with though.

NuffSaidSam · 08/10/2024 23:14

I reckon he'd have a big swear.

I don't think we'd invade Norway though.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/10/2024 23:13

What on earth are you talking about? The UK Government supports Israel.

(Your Norway analogy is nonsensical, too.)

Boutonnière · 08/10/2024 23:11

itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 21:07

Britain has never been completely innocent.

In relation to Norway ? Apart from some people on fjord cruises being a bit miffed about alcohol prices, our relationship with Norway is very cordial.

Your analogy is ridiculous.

Hellomateyboy · 08/10/2024 22:53

Slightly off topic but was ‘brining children’ a typo?

itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 21:07

Martymcfly24 · 08/10/2024 20:53

And in your scenario would Britain be completely innocent prior to the event and have no idea why this would occur. The Norwegians also have no reason to attack just fancied a killing spree.

(FYI not justifying the actions of October 7th)

Britain has never been completely innocent.

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itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 21:06

Saucery · 08/10/2024 20:33

Go on then, OP, what do you think he would do? Points taken off for mentioning free glasses or tickets to events because that wouldn’t be original 🥱

Invade Norway.

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posterWithaview · 08/10/2024 20:57

As a Norwegian I also ask OP - are you on glue?

Martymcfly24 · 08/10/2024 20:53

And in your scenario would Britain be completely innocent prior to the event and have no idea why this would occur. The Norwegians also have no reason to attack just fancied a killing spree.

(FYI not justifying the actions of October 7th)

Dulra · 08/10/2024 20:38

RadioBamboo · 08/10/2024 20:34

I mean, Ireland would work better. But both countries are in NATO, signed the Belfast Agreement and have cordial diplomatic relations.

FYI Ireland is not in NATO but agree Ireland may have made slightly more sense than Norway in this bizarre scenario