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What would Keir Starmer do if a group of Norwegians supported by the Norwegian government invaded tomorrow killing thousands?

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itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 20:17

Raping them, brining children, taking hostages then held them for a year. Then promised they would do it again and again any time they had the power or chance.

Do you think we'd invade Norway?

Do you think we'd have domestic or international support?

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 09/10/2024 18:42

Starmer might give Orkney back to Norway…if their attack was about getting it back?

newbeggins · 09/10/2024 18:41

Do you think he'd try to kill as many Norwegians as possible because he thinks they are sub-human?

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 09/10/2024 18:38

itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 20:17

Raping them, brining children, taking hostages then held them for a year. Then promised they would do it again and again any time they had the power or chance.

Do you think we'd invade Norway?

Do you think we'd have domestic or international support?

You mean Vikings from Norway? I think we would defend like we did before and not go and invade Norway.

deeahgwitch · 09/10/2024 17:56

Ireland isn't in NATO @RadioBamboo.

The British did invade Ireland.
Took the land from the Irish forcibly.
Didn't allow them to speak their language, practice the majority religion and put settlers from England and Scotland on the land they took from the native Irish @itsmabeline.
They eventually gave most of Ireland back (81.25%) to be self ruled after numerous rebellions by the Irish.

I am a descendant of both the native Irish and the settlers.

midgetastic · 09/10/2024 17:56

If the government of Norway had done violence without any prior hurt or harm done to them ?

So nothing like the current Middle East conflict then? A sort of random story ? Without purpose ?

itsmabeline · 09/10/2024 17:41

It's like if the government of Norway had sent the Norwegians to attack the UK. Not individual terrorist actors considered terrorists in their own country, put on trial in their own country or presented by their own country to any higher court for human rights violations.

I mean if the government of Norway sent people to UK to brutally attack civilians, and said that if they had the power and opportunity they would repeat it over and over again. If they instructed citizens to bear arms and murder as many Brits as they could and rewarded their families if they died murdering Brits.

Then we'd have a problem with the government of Norway and when you have a problem with a government like that with continuous, murderous intent against your citizens that just invaded, you declare war.

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ismu · 09/10/2024 16:07

Well we all know that Keir would do absolutely nothing to stop innocent children from being slaughtered, protect elderly and vulnerable people or indeed do anything that he has promised to do.
So we can safely assume that whatever the Norwegians get up to would be absolutely A OK with Keir.

cestlavielife · 09/10/2024 15:51

It s the how.
Yes we would condemn.
Uk bombed iraq war on terror etc for what purpose?

Both sides continue to instill "other" in the next generation . War crimes aplenty. It isn't going to end til both sides think peace. See northern Ireland peace process.

MrsSunshine2b · 09/10/2024 15:42

Sorry, are you referring to the terrorist attacks of 7th October, or Israel's subsequent attacks in Gaza and Lebanon?

Because if it's the former, I think if we'd taken most of Norway's land and annexed them in a tiny area by the Swedish border in addition to a long list of atrocities we've seen against the Palestinian people, International Law would have stepped in to condemn that a long time ago and be unsurprised when the remaining Norwegians reacted.

I think if it's the latter, I think if British terrorists had turned up in Norway and brutally murdered a load of completely innocent young people at a festival, and continually advocated for destroying Norway as a country, we'd have to accept some responsibility for our terrorist problem and I'd hope we'd deal with that ourselves before Norway had to.

Both parties have behaved terribly in this situation, and international input seems to have only made matters worse.

The only people who are blameless are the kids and innocent civilians caught in the middle, and the more it escalates the more they suffer.

itisafuckinggoat · 09/10/2024 15:25

No, because invading other countries isn’t defending your own. It’s invading other countries and escalating the original problem. Also the UK no longer does as it likes in other countries and does not insist it is above reproach or decide any criticism of its actions as a country is anti-christian.

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 15:11

"It is like if Norway destroys the London Eye we destroy France because a Parisian waiter was rude to Starmer’s wife and then half heartedly dropping a few bombs on Oslo."

It really isn't.

MadeleineMummy · 09/10/2024 14:52

OctoberOctopus · 09/10/2024 12:30

I guess we have a previous example of a response that is more recent.

September 11th. Thousands died. The US then launched their war on terror. Eventually they tracked down the then leader and killed him.

Not before killing 4 million Iraqis, creating a power vacuum and leading to the rise of ISIS and instability in the area. Then killing millions of Afghans and finally putting the Taliban getting back into power.

all the while ignoring invading Saudi Arabia where the leader and most of the terrorists were from.

It is like if Norway destroys the London Eye we destroy France because a Parisian waiter was rude to Starmer’s wife and then half heartedly dropping a few bombs on Oslo.

Daftasabroom · 09/10/2024 14:35

Katiesaidthat · 09/10/2024 14:20

The Normans?

See up thread.

If it doesn't have to be France, William of Orange 1688.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 09/10/2024 14:21

itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 20:17

Raping them, brining children, taking hostages then held them for a year. Then promised they would do it again and again any time they had the power or chance.

Do you think we'd invade Norway?

Do you think we'd have domestic or international support?

Was Britain holding the Norwegians in a state of perpetual state of apartheid and illegally settling on Norwegian land first? Also was part of Norway given to Britain despite the protestations of the natives?

Katiesaidthat · 09/10/2024 14:20

Daftasabroom · 09/10/2024 13:03

When was Britain invaded by France?

The Normans?

immigrant002 · 09/10/2024 14:05

itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 20:17

Raping them, brining children, taking hostages then held them for a year. Then promised they would do it again and again any time they had the power or chance.

Do you think we'd invade Norway?

Do you think we'd have domestic or international support?

Well lets see ! Did the english invaded first kicked the danish out of their homes gave them no rights and kept killing them periodically over decades ?

midgetastic · 09/10/2024 13:57

I guess I wasn't aware we had been denying Norwegians basic human rights, that our soldiers based in Norway had been killing Norwegians, that we had been blockading their ports , that British citizens had been using violence to move Norwegians out of their homes and move in themselves

So as to what Keir would do - I guess the first thing would be to launch an investigation as to why all our horrific actions had been covered up and for how long

Kick someone endlessly then acting hurt and surprised when they kick back is such arrogant behaviour

username3678 · 09/10/2024 13:35

I get where you're going with this and I can see the UK immediately carpet bombing Norway, imprisoning thousands of Norwegians and destroying vital infrastructure. We'd also try to herd them into Sweden so we can live there, and starve them.

Daftasabroom · 09/10/2024 13:22

@MrsSkylerWhite I did fact check myself before posting and came across the utterly grim Royal Navy phrase of "sucking the monkey".

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/10/2024 13:19

Not pedantic, accurate.

Daftasabroom · 09/10/2024 13:18

ismu · 09/10/2024 13:11

To be fair Norway might want to reclaim Shetland and Orkney as its only been about 700 years- and then they could move to the Western Isles, send some settlers to York, flatten Manchester and assassinate Andy Burnham.
The brined children just the start of it

Nelson was preserved in rum. Maybe something we picked up from the Vikings.

Daftasabroom · 09/10/2024 13:15

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/10/2024 13:05

1066?

UK didn't exist, Britain was a geographic region not a country. Duke of Normandy was French but England wasn't invaded by the King of France.

A bit pedantic I know. Also the Vikings actually did invade were largely from Denmark.

Arguably the last English (Angle-ish?!?) monarch was Harold in 1066

ismu · 09/10/2024 13:11

To be fair Norway might want to reclaim Shetland and Orkney as its only been about 700 years- and then they could move to the Western Isles, send some settlers to York, flatten Manchester and assassinate Andy Burnham.
The brined children just the start of it

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/10/2024 13:05

1066?

Daftasabroom · 09/10/2024 13:03

itsmabeline · 08/10/2024 20:24

Are you ignoring the history of every other country on the planet?

The UK was invaded by France, are we going to invade?

When was Britain invaded by France?