To say that to criticise the actions of the Israeli state…

Well , to be honest I think your mum has a point

Are you saying that terrorism is justified?

What happened on the 7th October is appalling

What happened if Gaza was / is appalling

What’s happening in Lebanon is appalling

Leadership in all sides is shocking

The current attacks in Lebanon are not about October 7

The “exploding pagers” was planned and started long before October 7

There is no resolution, as the people involved do not place any value of the lives of innocent people

You can condemn Hammas, Hezbolla, and the IDF

The Saudis would love for Iran to get a kicking ..

I wish I didn’t live in a country with an Arms Trade (supported by the govt) that had no problem with weapons bombing hospitals and killing children

Its not antisemitic to criticise the actions of the israeli government or to actively protest. Antisemitism has been hugely on the rise with both overt hate crimes and insidious undercurrent of vileness. Both are true. It is vital we stand with the jewish people against this.

The punishment of a whole people because of the actions of a few is nothing new, talk to muslims and anyone not white after 9/11

Hammas is horrific and if we would round up everyone involved in 7th October, I would hand them over and turn away and hope they feel the pain they caused. I pray they are destroyed.

There is always, always "but they were only doing it in response to X" and you can do that back to the beginning of time. No October 7th can never be explained, mitigated or forgiven. The slaughter of innocents and children must always be condemned but same goes for Gaza. There are too many reports of war crimes for it to all be an exaggeration or 'one bad apple'. Look at Hind. Look at the clearly marked aid vehicals with bullet holes or the bodies of those from the world kitchen and doctors without borders or the massacre of people collecting aid. All reported by multiple news outlets.

In response to 'it must be antisemitism because no one is responding this way to other global conflicts'. I would say for me it was actually the use of social media by the people of Gaza particularly journalists like Motaz and Bissan. I didn't seek out this content but it was widely shared and I now do follow them. Reading about the terrible attacks in Ukraine with a single photo of moving tanks is very different to a livestream of childrens bodies being pulled from rubble as parents scream. For the first time we are watching war in our palms as real people die. It adds an urgency and terror and has, rightly, directly impacted people. When you see that you don't care about nuances you just want to get the babies out. That's my take on why this conflict has been received so differently.

Neither I would hope.
My point (apologies if made badly) is that Jewish people have been subjected to awful anti semitism for so long that its a natural assumption that any criticism has its roots in anti semitism while in some cases it may not. They hear hoofbeats and assume horses rather than zebras
I do not believe that I am anti semitic, I respect the right of Israel to exist and defend itself BUT I also condem the death of so many women and children in Gaza and beyond.

Please don't minimise the horrific murder of hundreds of people to say nothing of the rapes.

It's possible to the condemn actions of Israel without using language designed to deliberately downplay the slaughter of so many innocents that triggered this current situation.

I'm not turning against them though. In fact I feel for them deeply.

What I am against is the Israeli administration behaving in the way it has, I do not believe this is in relation to the October 7 attack. Bombing Beirut will not bring peace. As someone said on another thread, you cannot bomb your way to peace and all sides need to achieve a constructive solution and start genuine, lasting dialogues about the situation and the region.

There needs to be comprehensive peace talks, and people like the US and the UK need to step out of it, as well as Russia and Iran. Having these foreign powers using the region and the people of the Middle East to fight their proxy wars is never going to end well. All sides need to be able to come to the table, and at some point that will need to involve the removal of Hamas and Hezbollah from power to allow governments to be formed. How that would happen, I do not pretend to know the ins and outs. But it's clear that the current situation is not beneficial to anyone, and it's desperately sad.

Does it make me antisemitic to say that? I don't think it does.

Criticising the Israeli government's actions is not inherently antisemitic but a lot of antisemites are jumping on that criticism to push antisemitic views.
The post quoted above is a perfect example of the issue at hand. This poster can't even make a criticism of the Israeli government without slipping off into a 'the Jews control the media / all Jews are the same' tirade.

I've also noticed that when discussing Islamic government atrocities commentators will go to great lengths to differentiate between the people and the government. We don't speak about the Afghan government or Palestinian government, we talk about the Taliban and Hamas. Even with Iran it's the 'Iranian Regime' to highlight that their hardline stance supposedly stands apart from the average Iranian.

Yet when it comes to the Israeli government it's just Israel, as if the entire country (and in some people's mind, the entire Jewish population of the world) is one homogeneous group that backs Netanyahu to the hilt.

It's really disgusting when you look at how the Jewish community in this country conducts itself and behaves to see such huge numbers of people turning against them.

This. Awful to see this minimisation

Hamas raped, slaughtered and mutilated men, women and children, not 1 single women's body could be show to their family due to the levels of abuse and mutilation they suffered.
Let that sink in.
Add to that the hostages they took and still hold over a year later.
Now please explain your minimisation of such crimes against humanity as it was only once

Are we mad? Or just paranoid?

Certain sections of the Jewish and/or Israeli community Do use accusations of Anti semitism to silence criticism
However, having experienced Anti semitism for literally thousands of years its hardly surprising that they see it everywhere

I absolutely do but could see nothing in her statement that was antisemitic. Believe me, I would have called her out, if I had.

I enjoy that aspect of being Jewish enormously. I just love the power!

And controlling the world obviously 😉

Because we weaponise it so we can get away with our favourite pastimes of drinking the blood of children and behaving like genocidal nazis undisturbed, am I right?

Well it did actually happen. She was accused of being antisemitic, if you care to scroll back.

If you don’t want to answer, fine. Enjoy your day.

And this is a great example of how even if haven't called something anti semetic, it is assumed we will....

Ok, another obtuse post with no substance. This is a bit pointless isn’t it?

No that was not what I was referring to.....

Dear oh dear

I literally asked you a question, for clarification.
I didn’t ask for the contents of your mind. Just yes or no would be fine.

www.ipsos.com/en-uk/uk-attitudes-toward-conflict-israel-and-gaza
This poll is interesting and was published 4 days ago. It seems opinions on this conflict are very divided, which is no surprise.
However, 60% of people believe Israel's military action has "gone too far". 12% think Israel's actions are "about right".
Are the 60% of people who believe Israel have gone too far, all antisemitic? Are the 12% who think Israel's actions are about right, all islamaphobic? The answer to both questions is no.
People are just rightly concerned about this conflict and the resulting humanitarian crisis.

I put it in hyphens as the phrase had been used above in the post I was responding to. Unless you’re taking the objection to me calling it a slur? I think accusing people of being racist is extremely serious and so is a slur if used out of context.