Offer made to Israel

It doesn't list the 57 who guarantee safety

I would love this to happen but unless one of those 57 states is Iran then it isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Jordan had always been moderate. Unfortunately they have almost zero sway with Hamas and Hezbollah. What are they going to do to stop those two groups attacking Israel?

It's a disgrace that our military are involved. I don't want to be any part of this and it's not what I voted for. Western intervention has caused enough instability in the ME and is the cause of the government in Iran. We only have to look at the increase in terrorism in Europe and the state of Afghanistan to see the results of interference.

username7891 · Today 13:23

MrsSkylerWhite · Today 13:08
username7891
As far as I'm aware, Palestine is a state, recognised by 145 UN members. It's officially called the State of Palestine“

Yet the world stands by and watches it being invaded by another state.
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Unfortunately might is right and Israel has backing from the US. They've made feeble protests about proportionality whilst providing billions in weapons and military support.

Indeed. Our Government meekly follows suit. The UK needs to follow the example of France and stop all arms sales until the Israel Government reigns in. It has gone far beyond retaliation.

Err because they aren't a state and there isn't one single government or organisation that can legitimately speak on behalf of "Palestine"? That's kind of the point isn't it?

You can read about it here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

Wow

May I ask who the 57 countries are? Fo they include Iran, Lebanon or Yemen.

Unfortunately might is right and Israel has backing from the US. They've made feeble protests about proportionality whilst providing billions in weapons and military support.

Does this offer include return of the hostages ?

username7891

As far as I'm aware, Palestine is a state, recognised by 145 UN members. It's officially called the State of Palestine“

Yet the world stands by and watches it being invaded by another state.

That's pretty obvious now. Before the invasion there was very strong language about destroying Palestine and plans were put in place for ethnic cleansing.

The indiscriminate killing, destruction of vital infrastructure and witholding of humanitarian aid speaks for itself.

I think they don't want Palestine to exist, too. Some of the cabinet members have finally openly said so.

The problem is that Israel don’t want a Palestinian state to exist.

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Unrelatedly, I have some magic beans if you’re interested…

I'm not sure many people would consider 57 muslim states - many of whom have declared their opposition to Israel - to be inherently more trustworthy than the US, UK and Russia. Why would you think that? And even if they could be trusted today, things change - once upon a time, Iran was a strong ally of Israel. What would've happened if Israel back then had decided to trust them that they would always protect them?!

It's never a good idea for any country to rely entirely on another for their security, and this is even more true for Israel. If the 57 muslim states - or anyone else - want to stop the war, they should offer to help defeat the people who started the war, ie hamas, hezbollah and the iranian regime.

How could it stop Israel existing? Israel has more weapons and defences than Palestine could dream off.

Currently Israel is making sure generations of Palestinians will hate it and see it as a target. They either have to wipe out as Palestine as it is, or do something political. I guess they are going option A.

Oh yes, sorry, I was being sarcastic but I mean this is so ludicrous it makes no sense anyway. Obviously Israel has to guarantee its own safety with its own weapons. Now, if those 57 states are serious they need to put some actual proposals on the table.

It all depends on the details of the 2SS.

For example the West Bank is within 100metres, 20km and 40km of Israel's 3 biggest population centres. Too close for missile defence systems to work. It's also 20km from the sea, so a ground assault could quickly cut the country in two.

So Israel allowing militarisation of the West Bank and relaxing their control of weapons imports into a new state located there does exactly mean giving up it's ability to protect its population.

I think the Budapest Memorandum is a very relevant history lesson.

The Organization of Islamic Cooperation is not in a position to guarantee Israeli security.

It is not, unfortunately, a serious offer.

You mean why wouldn't they need to surely. Because weapons act as a deterrent as Ukraine found to its cost

That was the US, the UK and Russia that were making that guarantee. Would you trust any of those to keep their word ?

Is this for real??
Why would Israel trust 57 Arab and Muslim countries, many of whom are well known for their hate towards Israel, trust more than I can trust e.g. UK?? Not sure to what degree you're familiar with history, but in 1994 Ukraine and Russia were very close partners.

No country should trust another country/ies their security. Ukraine learn this lesson hard way and I hope Israel learns from mistakes of others.

Why would they need to, what with all 57 Arab & muslim states, who have never had any beef with Israel, guaranteeing their safety?