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Auvergne63 · 13/10/2024 08:30

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 09:39

@Dulra I think it's straight Islamophobia. If it was white peoples being killed there would be a lot more being done and said.

I think it is too as well as land grabbing. I have no words.

anotherlevel · 13/10/2024 08:22

@itwasnevermine I agree. The world has been conditioned to see all Muslims as the enemy and sadly there are those who have bought into this. But equally there are those who haven't fortunately.

The mass murders of the Palestinians is Islamophobia.

Daftasabroom · 12/10/2024 23:42

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 19:43

It just gets worse and worse. I don’t know how this is allowed, how are we (UK) supporting this?

We're supporting it, not, by selling weapons to Israel.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 12/10/2024 23:24

ScrollingLeaves · 12/10/2024 14:24

I wish I could remember a post, a long time ago now, with links to a Palestinian education expert who was writing about what happens, though it may have been what happens in Palestinian text books (?) due Israeli control too.

There was also a video clip from a religious school showing children saying Arabs would be their slaves. (This must not be typical of every school though).

Are you talking about Robert Martin's interview with Nurit Peled Elhanan? I can repost the links here if you like. 😀

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 21:42

puttyinboots · 12/10/2024 21:25

Remember Hind, the scale of Israel's genocidal war crimes is staggering and the lack of respect for human life is beyond comprehension

I've been thinking about this all day, it just weighs so heavy on my mind.

I am convinced the blasé attitude and even rabid support for what is happening is rooted in Islamophobia. We've been taught to see Muslims as the enemy for so long.

I've spoken to my mum about it and while she thinks the Israeli children are innocent (of course, I agree they are) she thinks the Palestinian children are just collateral damage who deserve to pay for Hamas' crimes. It's sickening.

EasterIssland · 12/10/2024 21:29

puttyinboots · 12/10/2024 21:25

Remember Hind, the scale of Israel's genocidal war crimes is staggering and the lack of respect for human life is beyond comprehension

There is a foundation now In her name. They’ve submitted a document to ICC with names of 1000 IDF members that have committed war crimes with 8000 images as proof of this. There are many with dual nationality which I hope they’re prosecuted for if they’re not staying in Israel

puttyinboots · 12/10/2024 21:25

Remember Hind, the scale of Israel's genocidal war crimes is staggering and the lack of respect for human life is beyond comprehension

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 19:43

It just gets worse and worse. I don’t know how this is allowed, how are we (UK) supporting this?

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 18:37

@ThisPearlPeer13 it's not ignored. But that does not and will not ever excuse what is happening now

Lettherebejustice · 12/10/2024 18:26

ThisPearlPeer13 · 12/10/2024 18:25

100 synagogues in Arab countries. Thats c1.5 billion Arab people btw. There actually used to be Jews all over Arab lands, but they were all expelled. Something that's conveniently ignored.

It's not ignored, rather mentioned on almost every thread that discusses the war in Gaza. It doesn't justify what Israel is doing to the Palestinians in any way.

ThisPearlPeer13 · 12/10/2024 18:25

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 17:48

@ThisPearlPeer13 that's not true.

There are 400 mosques in Israel.

Israeli forces have destroyed 814 of Gaza's 1245 mosques. (79%). Israeli forces have destroyed more mosques than there are in their own country.

100 synagogues in Arab countries. Thats c1.5 billion Arab people btw. There actually used to be Jews all over Arab lands, but they were all expelled. Something that's conveniently ignored.

ThisPearlPeer13 · 12/10/2024 17:58

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 17:53

@ThisPearlPeer13 and how exactly is that relevant?

Israel having 400 mosques doesn't negate the destruction of mosques in other nations?

Err, this is in response to saying Israeli kids are brainwashed into Thinking Arabs are lesser. This couldn't be further from the truth. There are around 2m Arabs citizens with EQUAL RIGHTS, living side by side. As I said you no nothing about Israelis.

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 17:53

@ThisPearlPeer13 and how exactly is that relevant?

Israel having 400 mosques doesn't negate the destruction of mosques in other nations?

ThisPearlPeer13 · 12/10/2024 17:51

Lettherebejustice · 12/10/2024 17:46

compared to around 100 in all the Arab countries combined

Is this a joke? Whatever propaganda site you got that from, even a little common sense would make you think that can't be true.

Meant to say 100 synagogues in the all the Arab nations combined. Google it, / Chat GPT it's not hard to find out.

GhostCicada · 12/10/2024 17:48

ThisPearlPeer13 · 12/10/2024 17:38

Ridiculous thing to say. 20% of the Israeli population are Arab / Muslim with exactly the same rights as everyone else there. There are around 400 Mosques in Israel compared to around 100 in all the Arab countries combined!!!
You know nothing about Israel and its people. Educate yourself, it's you who is brainwashed.

So the Law of Return and Absentees’ Property Law applies to Arabs/Muslims too?

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 17:48

@ThisPearlPeer13 that's not true.

There are 400 mosques in Israel.

Israeli forces have destroyed 814 of Gaza's 1245 mosques. (79%). Israeli forces have destroyed more mosques than there are in their own country.

Lettherebejustice · 12/10/2024 17:46

compared to around 100 in all the Arab countries combined

Is this a joke? Whatever propaganda site you got that from, even a little common sense would make you think that can't be true.

ThisPearlPeer13 · 12/10/2024 17:38

Flatiron · 12/10/2024 10:20

I’m afraid Israelis are brainwashed very early on, within their education system, to think that ‘Arabs’ are ‘less than…’

Ridiculous thing to say. 20% of the Israeli population are Arab / Muslim with exactly the same rights as everyone else there. There are around 400 Mosques in Israel compared to around 100 in all the Arab countries combined!!!
You know nothing about Israel and its people. Educate yourself, it's you who is brainwashed.

Lettherebejustice · 12/10/2024 17:04

Silence1 · 12/10/2024 15:18

I saw or read an interview saying just that - IDF wants to drive everyone out of the North and anyone who stays is regarded as a terrorist. No plan for those who can't actually move like the children in intensive care from IDF bomb injuries.
And as @ScrollingLeaves posts this was the plan mentioned months ago and the settlers saying they would take the land.

Posters who spoke about the ethnic cleansing plan for the North of Gaza last year were ridiculed or even told off for thinking the worst of Israel as they wouldn't do that, stop demonising etc etc yet one year later here we are and it is now fast becoming a reality.

Silence1 · 12/10/2024 15:29

I saw an interview on Chanel 4 with an ex IDF commander of some description whose name I didn't get. She was saying that Israel is the representative of the West in the ME and an attack on Israel is an attack on the West. The interviewer said many would say Israel does not share Western values with their actions in Gaza and she then disputed Gaza casualties.
I don't remember voting for the Israeli Gov to be my representative and I am sure millions of others in the West don't either.

On top of that I saw an interview with an ex or current IDF person who said they are fighting our war for us and we should be thanking them.
Clearly this is the new messaging.

EasterIssland · 12/10/2024 15:24

One year apart and the same threat. IDF can’t destroy Hamas one year after.

This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 5)
Silence1 · 12/10/2024 15:18

Flatiron · 12/10/2024 08:31

So, can anyone doubt the true intentions of the Israeli campaign in Gaza? They’re now clearing Northern Gaza, telling everyone to go south or they’ll be fair game (not that they aren’t already). This is a land grab writ large. Palestinians will not ever be able to return to what is a virtual wasteland. What a disaster… The Israeli government can seemingly do what they like. Why do they have a free pass to kill and maim civilians and destroy the country? The world seems afraid to do anything meaningful to stop the carnage.

I saw or read an interview saying just that - IDF wants to drive everyone out of the North and anyone who stays is regarded as a terrorist. No plan for those who can't actually move like the children in intensive care from IDF bomb injuries.
And as @ScrollingLeaves posts this was the plan mentioned months ago and the settlers saying they would take the land.

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