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Auvergne63 · 14/10/2024 16:49

Martymcfly24 · 14/10/2024 16:27

Having seen Moraz' image of the burning person I truly think I may have to spend some time away from this forum became to see the same ( and new) posters arguing over semantics while children are literally burning to death is too much.

My heart is so sad for all these people not only for what they are going through but the knowledge that the world knows and doesn't give a shit about them.

I really feel that the Israeli government has been given carte blanche by the Western Governments to do as they please.
When will they say "enough is enough"?
I have worked in France, on a hospital ward for children with serious burns. I lasted two weeks. I cannot bear to think of the terrible pain the survivors of the fires must be in, knowing that hospitals have been bombed deliberately and they have to endured what we wouldn't, in the name of self defence.

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 16:40

Martymcfly24 · 14/10/2024 16:27

Having seen Moraz' image of the burning person I truly think I may have to spend some time away from this forum became to see the same ( and new) posters arguing over semantics while children are literally burning to death is too much.

My heart is so sad for all these people not only for what they are going through but the knowledge that the world knows and doesn't give a shit about them.

It's REALLY REALLY hard isn't it. It's been weighing heavy on me today and everyday I'm terrified to see what I might come across on SM. And I haven't seen any of the pro Israel supporters on here condemn this or have anything to say about it.

Martymcfly24 · 14/10/2024 16:27

Having seen Moraz' image of the burning person I truly think I may have to spend some time away from this forum became to see the same ( and new) posters arguing over semantics while children are literally burning to death is too much.

My heart is so sad for all these people not only for what they are going through but the knowledge that the world knows and doesn't give a shit about them.

Auvergne63 · 14/10/2024 15:32

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 13:23

For me it's the fact that kids are being bombed but people sit there and not only justify it but celebrate it. They think it's okay because of the colour of their skin.

Pardon my French but what the fuck has happened to our humanity. How can people live with themselves?

As a French citizen, you are pardoned.

EasterIssland · 14/10/2024 13:46

Mitigate the risk of civilians

does why nearly 70% of those killed were children

ScrollingLeaves · 14/10/2024 13:39

BBC(my bolding)
As we reported earlier, an Israeli air strike on Sunday hit the al-Aqsa Hospital complex in central Gaza, where many displaced Palestinians were sheltering.

The strike killed four people and injured dozens others. Aouni Khattab, who lost his tent and belongings in the strike, says some of those sheltering "were trapped inside the fire".

"We were unable to pull them out," he tells Reuters, adding: "A human being burning alive in front of your eyes, and you can't rescue them."

Another person sheltering at the site says: "I swear there's no safety, whether it's a hospital, a school, or any place. Nearly five days ago, they hit a school, and today they hit the tents."

Israel says it was targeting a "terrorist" command and control centre, adding that it took "numerous steps" to mitigate the risk to civilians.

Targeting a “terrorist commmand and control centre”

Presumably they have a bot putting out these statements by now.

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 13:26

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 13:23

For me it's the fact that kids are being bombed but people sit there and not only justify it but celebrate it. They think it's okay because of the colour of their skin.

Pardon my French but what the fuck has happened to our humanity. How can people live with themselves?

It's ok Israel has a right to defend itself so it's all good. Nothing to see here.

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 13:23

For me it's the fact that kids are being bombed but people sit there and not only justify it but celebrate it. They think it's okay because of the colour of their skin.

Pardon my French but what the fuck has happened to our humanity. How can people live with themselves?

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 13:17

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 08:56

I saw this in the night when I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep thinking I'm home in my comfortable bed and this is what their life is. Being burnt to death, living in fear, never having any kind of peace. It just makes me so so angry that this is being allowed to happen.

Me too. It's also making me depressed. The atrocities that Israel commits get worse and worse. This depravity is being paid for with our tax dollars, too. It's disgusting. 😡

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 13:13

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 08:34

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne sometimes I just feel totally helpless. There isn't a country in the west that doesn't support Israel. Just by virtue of living in the UK, earning and spending money here, we're supporting them. It's so so horrible.

Me too, it's s horrible. Despite the horrific massacres, our governments still support Israel and allow it to continue. 😢

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 12:28

Have we not known this all along?

They've had so many hostage deals proposed and they've always said no. It's been clear for years what the intent is

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 12:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c80r2y47rz4t?post=asset%3A1f3cecfa-a5c4-41af-9bd5-2d0b460c320c#post

A food distribution centre was hit this morning.

This isn't war. This is genocide.

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 10:17

If they knew there were Hamas operatives there, why couldn't they arrange a covert operation and target them that way? Why needlessly bomb and kill so many innocent people?

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 10:09

@itwasnevermine So predictable. I'm sure a poster said this would happen when they announced there'd be a vaccine centre.

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 10:08

@anotherlevel the centre was set up the UNRWA, and was to be sued by the WHO.

Of course Israel have claimed there were people hiding there

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 10:05

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 09:13

The school bombed yesterday was to be used as a vaccine centre.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c80r2y47rz4t?post=asset%3A2fd05d04-efc9-4194-ac66-efab275c6ef8#post

Utterly despicable.

Translated:

Oh we're going to do a nice caring thing and show the world we care about the Palestinians and create a vaccine centre.

Oh wait but Hamas has a control centre there so we'll have to bomb it to death.

What a shame.

AhaHa · 14/10/2024 10:02

Dulra · 10/10/2024 21:01

I have only just seen this article from yesterday. I have to admit I'm pretty shocked with Netanyahu's words which amount to a very serious threat but also his admission of the destruction they have caused in Gaza and that (my interpretation) it's due to Palestinians not ridding themselves of Hamas, that doesn't sound like defence but revenge.

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appealed directly to the people of Lebanon in a video published on Tuesday, telling them to turn against the Iran-backed Shia group Hezbollah or risk destruction on the scale of Gaza.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgk707kv3dvo

Essentially he is inciting Lebanese people to civil war.

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 09:13

The school bombed yesterday was to be used as a vaccine centre.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c80r2y47rz4t?post=asset%3A2fd05d04-efc9-4194-ac66-efab275c6ef8#post

Utterly despicable.

Lettherebejustice · 14/10/2024 09:04

I just opened the news and saw on sky that a food distribution centre in the north that is still under siege has been bombed with many casualties 💔

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 08:56

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 00:01

Israel bombs displaced people's tents again. 😢💔

x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1845599473042444681

I saw this in the night when I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep thinking I'm home in my comfortable bed and this is what their life is. Being burnt to death, living in fear, never having any kind of peace. It just makes me so so angry that this is being allowed to happen.

Hatfullofwillow · 14/10/2024 08:55

Dulra · 13/10/2024 22:05

Sounds more like communist china than democratic Europe

There are things you can't say in Europe or the USA too related to the "conflict". Some with good reason, eg holocaust deniers, others not so much.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/universities-free-speech-row-academics-israel-hamas-conflict-2727217

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/uk-universities-gaza-ceasefire-silence-seems-hypocritical

University Unions have been obstructed in putting forward motions calling for a ceasefire by members of Academics for Academic Freedom, a group formed by a founder of Toby Young's Free Speech Union, both of which are only concerned with rightwing libertarian free speech.

Universities free speech row over Gaza as ministers accused of trying to silence academics

More than 2,500 academics have signed an open letter condemning the move as an attack on academic freedom

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/universities-free-speech-row-academics-israel-hamas-conflict-2727217

SallyWD · 14/10/2024 08:54

Just been on Twitter and in the space of one minute, I saw a video of people at hospital hooked up to IV machines as the hospital burnt down, a small boy saying his final goodbyes to his parents as he died and a row of dead children. All in Palestine.
I feel physically sick. I really feel the most awful sense of despair and helplessness. The fact that our government and the USA are supporting this is just devastating. It has to stop now.
Those poor, poor children who had their whole lives ahead of them.

Lettherebejustice · 14/10/2024 08:44

EasterIssland · 14/10/2024 07:43

read that kids have been burnt alive in this attack.

I am so so angry, and now this too. Anyone who is involved in burning and killing innocent people and children are the worst of the worst. How do they sleep at night?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8zj8qrn5o

A woman cries with an outstretched hand as residents inspect the damage after Israeli attacks on Ard al-Mufti School

Israeli shelling of Gaza school kills at least 15

Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence Agency said the site was struck by a volley of artillery on Sunday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8zj8qrn5o

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 08:34

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne sometimes I just feel totally helpless. There isn't a country in the west that doesn't support Israel. Just by virtue of living in the UK, earning and spending money here, we're supporting them. It's so so horrible.

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