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ScrollingLeaves · 16/10/2024 14:02

Thank you. Am I right in understanding that the soldiers are somehow getting a message ( the Eiland plan) but the commanders are denying they are sending it?

Trigger Warning:
I scrolled down the article and saw an earlier one about the Israeli strike on the hospital tents. There is a photo of Shabin burning alive while on a drip in the hospital tent. What unimaginable hell.

Lettherebejustice · 16/10/2024 13:29

Keir Starmer has said that the current government is also considering sanctioning Ben Gvir and Smotrich. I think they have made these considerations public after Cameron exposing that he was also going to do the same.

Lettherebejustice · 16/10/2024 13:27

The UK alongside Algeria and I think it is France has called an emergency UN meeting to address the worsening conditions in Gaza that have been imposed by Israel. Not sure how much difference it will make

ScrollingLeaves · 15/10/2024 22:42

anotherlevel · 15/10/2024 21:38

I'm glad his twitch account was banned. What an awful disgusting thing to say.

x.com/HasanabiProd/status/1845889127629176966

The irony of saying that about the Palestinians and thinking they are from an inferior culture!

anotherlevel · 15/10/2024 21:38

I'm glad his twitch account was banned. What an awful disgusting thing to say.

x.com/HasanabiProd/status/1845889127629176966

Dulra · 15/10/2024 18:42

The Democrats are not going to make any major policy changes this close to an election and Netanyahu knows it.

Lettherebejustice · 15/10/2024 18:20

SpiritAdder · 15/10/2024 17:25

Honestly, the words and more words from Biden are imho purely to cover his ass to the genocide case at the ICJ to point at and say he isn’t complicit in genocide because he told Israel’s government over and over follow the law, don’t bomb civilians, let in aid. It’s just imho smoke and mirrors for the actions of Biden’s administration which is one of full, unquestioned support.

Oh, and probably to get Harris votes.

I agree with you too. He is simply doing the bare minimum and issuing empty threats that everyone knows he will not carry out, simply to cover his own back.

What it does show is that the actions of the IDF have reached such a low that it has even forced the US to react to it, whether the concern is genuine or not is certainly questionable.

If this tactic is to gain votes then it will be a failed strategy. Voters who are watching the genocide unfolding in the north of Gaza will be furious that this is the best they could muster in order to prevent it.

Martymcfly24 · 15/10/2024 17:51

SpiritAdder · 15/10/2024 17:49

It’s ok, I am trying to be optimistic too, but tbh I have written Biden off.

Completely he has been the biggest disappointment of a president. Completely ineffectual.

SpiritAdder · 15/10/2024 17:49

Martymcfly24 · 15/10/2024 17:46

Too true..
I am just being stupidly optimistic in the midst of the despair.

And it probably is a vote pulling tactic. I wonder how the "Irish American" president Biden will react if Ireland enact the Occupied Territories Bill.

It’s ok, I am trying to be optimistic too, but tbh I have written Biden off.

Martymcfly24 · 15/10/2024 17:46

SpiritAdder · 15/10/2024 17:26

Just like the red line of don’t go into Rafah? And all the other conditions that were just hot air.

Too true..
I am just being stupidly optimistic in the midst of the despair.

And it probably is a vote pulling tactic. I wonder how the "Irish American" president Biden will react if Ireland enact the Occupied Territories Bill.

SpiritAdder · 15/10/2024 17:26

Martymcfly24 · 15/10/2024 17:23

It is significant though in that it demonstrates a departure from the US Policy of supporting Israel with no conditions. Hopefully this will continue.

Just like the red line of don’t go into Rafah? And all the other conditions that were just hot air.

SpiritAdder · 15/10/2024 17:25

Honestly, the words and more words from Biden are imho purely to cover his ass to the genocide case at the ICJ to point at and say he isn’t complicit in genocide because he told Israel’s government over and over follow the law, don’t bomb civilians, let in aid. It’s just imho smoke and mirrors for the actions of Biden’s administration which is one of full, unquestioned support.

Oh, and probably to get Harris votes.

Martymcfly24 · 15/10/2024 17:23

It is significant though in that it demonstrates a departure from the US Policy of supporting Israel with no conditions. Hopefully this will continue.

SallyWD · 15/10/2024 17:17

EasterIssland · 15/10/2024 16:56

wonder what the minimum that they need to provide to keep USA happy is

from bbc

The US has written to Israel’s government giving it 30 days to urgently boost humanitarian aid access in Gaza or face having some US military assistance cut off.
The letter amounts to the strongest known written warning from the Biden administration to its ally, coming as Israel’s attack on northern Gaza has seen mass forced displacements of civilians to the south.
The letter - sent two days ago - was signed by US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin. It says the US has “deep concern” about “the deteriorating humanitarian situation”.
It adds that Israel last month denied or impeded nearly 90% of humanitarian movements between north and south Gaza.
It states that evacuation orders have forced 1.7 million people into a narrow coastal strip where they are at “high risk of lethal contagion”.
The letter demands “urgent and sustained actions by your government this month to reverse this trajectory”.
It says Israel “must, starting now and within 30 days” act on a series of concrete measures to boost aid supplies, adding that failure may “have implications for US policy”.
It cites US laws which can prohibit military assistance to countries that impede delivery of American humanitarian aid.
It calls on Israel to end the “isolation of northern Gaza” by reaffirming that there will be no “no Israeli government policy of forced evacuation of civilians” from north to south.
The contents of the letter, reported by the journalist Barak Ravid, have been verified by the BBC.

This is nowhere near enough but I'm glad that something is being done.

EasterIssland · 15/10/2024 16:56

wonder what the minimum that they need to provide to keep USA happy is

from bbc

The US has written to Israel’s government giving it 30 days to urgently boost humanitarian aid access in Gaza or face having some US military assistance cut off.
The letter amounts to the strongest known written warning from the Biden administration to its ally, coming as Israel’s attack on northern Gaza has seen mass forced displacements of civilians to the south.
The letter - sent two days ago - was signed by US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin. It says the US has “deep concern” about “the deteriorating humanitarian situation”.
It adds that Israel last month denied or impeded nearly 90% of humanitarian movements between north and south Gaza.
It states that evacuation orders have forced 1.7 million people into a narrow coastal strip where they are at “high risk of lethal contagion”.
The letter demands “urgent and sustained actions by your government this month to reverse this trajectory”.
It says Israel “must, starting now and within 30 days” act on a series of concrete measures to boost aid supplies, adding that failure may “have implications for US policy”.
It cites US laws which can prohibit military assistance to countries that impede delivery of American humanitarian aid.
It calls on Israel to end the “isolation of northern Gaza” by reaffirming that there will be no “no Israeli government policy of forced evacuation of civilians” from north to south.
The contents of the letter, reported by the journalist Barak Ravid, have been verified by the BBC.

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Scirocco · 15/10/2024 14:27

@KnickerDropperGlory what's your take on the recent events then? Personally, I think what's happening to people in Palestine and now Lebanon is rather difficult to defend or justify, so I'm genuinely curious as to how people who don't think that way actually come to the conclusion that what's happening is ok or defensible.

OneQuickHam · 15/10/2024 14:24

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Sorry, I didn't realise that every single poster has to show a sufficient amount of outrage about every single thing in order to not be considered a terrible person.

MissyB1 · 15/10/2024 14:12

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US Government will not stand against this (and the UK are pathetically half hearted). We can only hope the ordinary citizens of every Country can force their Governments to listen and take action. Even the United Nations cannot get America to listen.

anotherlevel · 15/10/2024 14:01

@SallyWD Yes I saw a video of the protest in NY and sadly one protestor was strong armed almost by a police officer.

SallyWD · 15/10/2024 13:58

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anotherlevel · 15/10/2024 13:56

@KnickerDropperGlory What an awful comment to make. You're happy to come on here to make negative comments about posters but not to show any outrage or concern or any other feelings about what happened in yesterday's attack. Why is that?

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