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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/04/2025 11:45

ScrollingLeaves · 03/04/2025 09:25

This seems to mean that the idea that all Hamas needs to do is give up the hostages and the war would stop, is not likely to be the case.

I think we have known that for months now. Doesn’t stop some from pretending that it would end the war tomorrow in order to lay 100% of the death and destruction at the feet of Hamas.

Lettherebejustice · 04/04/2025 09:03

Video from the nearby al-Ahli hospital showed children being rushed there in cars and trucks with serious injuries.

I saw the footage of this, no words for such cruelty.

Twiglets1 · 04/04/2025 07:27

EasterIssland · 03/04/2025 21:54

Israel has attacked one more time a school. There is at least 29 people killed. Half of them children

BBC reporting of this event includes statements from both sides:

At least 27 Palestinians have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a school in northern Gaza that was serving as a shelter for displaced families, the Hamas-run health ministry says.
Dozens more were wounded when the Dar al-Arqam school in the north-eastern Tuffah district of Gaza City was hit, it cited a local hospital as saying.
The Israeli military said it struck "prominent terrorists who were in a Hamas command and control centre" in the city, without mentioning a school.
The health ministry earlier reported the killing of another 97 people in Israeli attacks over the previous 24 hours, as Israel said its ground offensive was expanding to seize large parts of the Palestinian territory.
The spokesman for Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence agency, Mahmoud Bassal, said children and women were among the dead following the strike on Dar al-Arqam school.
He also said a woman who was heavily pregnant with twins was missing along with her husband, her sister, and her three children.
Video from the nearby al-Ahli hospital showed children being rushed there in cars and trucks with serious injuries.
A statement from the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) said the site in Gaza City that it struck had been used by Hamas fighters to plan attacks against Israeli civilians and troops.
It added that numerous steps had been taken to mitigate harm to civilians.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4nlg6y5pxo

EasterIssland · 03/04/2025 21:54

Israel has attacked one more time a school. There is at least 29 people killed. Half of them children

anotherlevel · 03/04/2025 18:20

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 03/04/2025 09:41

Agreed. It was never about the hostages. Anyone who says "this would all end if they release the hostages" is lying. If it was about the hostages Israel would have proceeded with stage two of the ceasefire and wouldn't have bombed Gaza on the 18th of March. If it was about the hostages, Israel would accept the release of all the hostages for a permanent ceasefire. It's obvious that what's happening in Gaza is ethnic cleansing.

Exactly and we’ve all been saying this from the beginning. He’s not even hiding it anymore. So the argument “this will all end if Hamas releases the hostages” won’t wash with anyone anymore.

ScrollingLeaves · 03/04/2025 09:59

Haaretz (Israeli news) March 31

Ending the Gaza War Is Not on Netanyahu's Agenda Under Any Circumstances, Even to Return Hostages
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at Sunday's cabinet meeting that even if a deal is reached to free all hostages, ending the war is not on the agenda.

Netanyahu made the end of the war dependent on disarming Hamas and exiling its surviving leaders. If that were not enough, Israel is demanding control of Gaza's security to implement U.S. President Donald Trump's migration plan.

Netanyahu claimed that the hostages were important to the government and that he and his wife regularly met the families' representatives, but the announcement's message was clear – not only to the families, but also to Hamas' leadership.

In order to bring the hostages back, Netanyahu is prepared to exchange prisoners and provide limited humanitarian aid, but ending the war is not on the agenda.

Every sentence in that statement is carefully considered and evaluated based on its position. Its words echoed in the offices of the region's leaders, in particular in the palaces of Egyptian President Abdel al-Sissi and Jordanian King Abdullah II. The objections to Trump's migration plan are no longer relevant. The same is true for the Egyptian-Arab reconstruction plan adopted by the Arab League summit in Cairo in early March.

Arab leaders and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas can dream about ruling Gaza or establishing a technocratic committee to administer Gaza as a prelude to the Palestinian Authority's return, but it will remain a dream. The Palestinians, who have been dreaming for 75 years, will continue to do so – reality for Netanyahu and his government is decided on the ground with tanks, jets, and checkpoints.

Gaza is isolated and closed, and Israel is pulverizing it. Its residents – even those who demonstrated against Hamas – can only decide whether to die in it or get out, with the "encouragement" of the Israeli government and the backing of the American superpower under Trump's leadership.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 03/04/2025 09:41

Martymcfly24 · 03/04/2025 09:29

That article is shocking. How could anyone read that and say that the reason Israel are destroying Gaza is because of the hostages because it clearly is not.

Agreed. It was never about the hostages. Anyone who says "this would all end if they release the hostages" is lying. If it was about the hostages Israel would have proceeded with stage two of the ceasefire and wouldn't have bombed Gaza on the 18th of March. If it was about the hostages, Israel would accept the release of all the hostages for a permanent ceasefire. It's obvious that what's happening in Gaza is ethnic cleansing.

Martymcfly24 · 03/04/2025 09:29

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 03/04/2025 09:20

That article is shocking. How could anyone read that and say that the reason Israel are destroying Gaza is because of the hostages because it clearly is not.

ScrollingLeaves · 03/04/2025 09:25

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 03/04/2025 09:20

This seems to mean that the idea that all Hamas needs to do is give up the hostages and the war would stop, is not likely to be the case.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 03/04/2025 09:20

Israel refuses the exchange of all the hostages for a permanent ceasefire.

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-willing-to-release-all-hostages-at-once-for-permanent-ceasefire-palestinian-official-tells-toi/

This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 5)
This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 5)
lionlass · 31/03/2025 22:48

Scirocco · 31/03/2025 22:09

And with the people who defend, justify and support these actions...

Can you imagine if this happened in Israel? There would be wall to wall coverage. Our politicians would be on tv telling us how horrific and evil it is. But it’s Palestine so we get their silent complicity instead. Hell isn’t hot enough for the people who support and defend this.

Scirocco · 31/03/2025 22:09

Eyesopenwideawake · 31/03/2025 21:29

What the FUCK is wrong with these people?

And with the people who defend, justify and support these actions...

Everyst · 31/03/2025 21:47

A lot of children killed yesterday in their Eid clothes. So sad. I don’t know why Palestinian lives don’t matter.

Eyesopenwideawake · 31/03/2025 21:29

EasterIssland · 31/03/2025 15:32

What the FUCK is wrong with these people?

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ScrollingLeaves · 30/03/2025 19:55

EasterIssland · 30/03/2025 19:34

Doctors report Palestinians are dying because of lack of supplies

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrxr7np4xzo

In a statement, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it "does not target uninvolved individuals."

The bare faced lying beggars belief.

MissyB1 · 30/03/2025 19:45

EasterIssland · 30/03/2025 19:34

Doctors report Palestinians are dying because of lack of supplies

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrxr7np4xzo

Yes I saw a couple of American doctors working in Gaza being interviewed last week, and they said they didn't even have any antibiotics. They were very clear that Israel were refusing to allow medical supplies in.

ScrollingLeaves · 30/03/2025 19:29

EasterIssland · 29/03/2025 09:07

Israel has admitted to be the ones firing because apparently despite they had agreed
everything with PRC they identified suspicious vehicles which were the ambilances

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/29/israel-admits-firing-at-ambulances-in-gaza-after-palestinians-say-rescuers-missing-in-rafah

it doesn’t neither explain where are the people that are missing

There is more information here from Haaretz:

The Palestinian Red Crescent said that it found ten bodies at the site of an Israeli bombardment carried out last Thursday in Rafah, adding that six of its staff were among the dead. Other team members' bodies were found on Sunday, including three from a civil defense group and one from UNRWA. The status of members from an emergency team sponsored by Hamas' Interior Ministry is still unknown.

  • The IDF confirmed that the rescue vehicles were identified as suspicious, and claimed that the vehicles were traveling "without coordination and without driving and emergency lights.”
Thisandthatandthensome · 29/03/2025 09:20

😥

EasterIssland · 29/03/2025 09:07

EasterIssland · 29/03/2025 07:57

One more time paramedics have been killed after agreeing a route with IDF. Some of the bodies have been found but some others are still missing

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/palestinian-red-crescent-recovers-paramedic-s-body-in-rafah-8-still-missing/3521968

Israel has admitted to be the ones firing because apparently despite they had agreed
everything with PRC they identified suspicious vehicles which were the ambilances

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/29/israel-admits-firing-at-ambulances-in-gaza-after-palestinians-say-rescuers-missing-in-rafah

it doesn’t neither explain where are the people that are missing

Israel admits firing at ambulances in Gaza after Palestinians say rescuers missing in Rafah

Body of team leader found almost a week after six rescuers went missing, Gaza’s civil defence agency says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/29/israel-admits-firing-at-ambulances-in-gaza-after-palestinians-say-rescuers-missing-in-rafah

ScrollingLeaves · 29/03/2025 08:36

Haaretz
March 27th 2025
In One of the Gaza War's Most Horrifying Nights, the Israeli Army Killed Nearly 300 Women and Children
Enthusiasm reigned in Israel last week over a successful attack that was said to have wiped out hundreds of Hamas militants. But the testimony from Gaza tells a different story

excerpt,

Dr. Sakib Rokadiya, a surgeon from the U.K. who was volunteering at the Nasser Hospital, in Khan Yunis, told Associated Press reporters: "What stunned doctors was the number of children… Just child after child, young patient after young patient."

The AP published an account of the scene that unfolded in the Nasser Hospital's ER: "One nurse was trying to resuscitate a boy sprawled on the floor with shrapnel in his heart. A young man with most of his arm gone sat nearby, shivering. A barefoot boy carried in his younger brother, around 4 years old, whose foot had been blown off. Blood was everywhere on the floor, with bits of bone and tissue." Dr. Tanya Haj-Hassan, an American intensive-care pediatrician volunteering at Nasser, told the news agency that she was "'overwhelmed, running from corner to corner, trying to find out who to prioritize, who to send to the operating room, who to declare a case that's not salvageable.'"

The story went on: "Wounds could be easy to miss. One little girl seemed OK – it just hurt a bit when she breathed, she told Haj-Hassan – but when they undressed her they determined she was bleeding into her lungs. Looking through the curly hair of another girl, Haj-Hassan discovered she had shrapnel in her brain."

Dr. Mohammed Mustafa, an emergency physician from Australia who was volunteering at the Baptist Hospital in Gaza City, talked about those hours in a video posted on social media: "We've worked throughout the entire night. The bombing has been nonstop… We've run out of all painkillers... There are seven girls getting their legs amputated, no anesthesia... It was mostly women and children, burned head to toe, limbs missing, heads missing. [A man] died on the way to the CT scan…. [The] three girls lying on the bed, they're his girls. They are now orphaned. Their mother didn't even make it into the hospital. She was killed along with their other sister... I was here in June, nothing to this intensity... The screams are everywhere... The smell of burned flesh is still in my nose."

More than a week after the air raid, an attempt can be made to dispel the smoke that arose from the Israeli opening strike, which ended two months of cease-fire in the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian Health Ministry reported 436 killed in the attack, among them 183 children, 94 women and 34 people over the age of 65. The night between March 17 and 18 is said to have been one of the deadliest since the start of <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/ZHsiW/www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-03-24/ty-article-static/.premium/50-000-palestinians-have-been-killed-in-gaza-this-is-how-it-happened-day-by-day/00000195-5706-d544-a795-df9eacaa0002" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the war.

The attack started at 2:20 A.M. The testimonies of the local inhabitants are similar. Some had just woken up for the suhoor meal ahead of the daylong Ramadan fast, when the bombs started to fall and panic spread among the Strip's bone-weary population. The air raids were carried out at dozens of sites simultaneously and apparently lasted a very short time, though it's highly unlikely that the whole operation took just 10 minutes, as reports in Israel claimed.

The Israeli media went into a swoon over the achievements of the attack. The daily Maariv described it as "one of the greatest preemptive operations in military history." The report claimed that "more than 300 terrorists were liquidated within a few minutes… thanks to extraordinary cooperation between the Shin Bet [security service] and the air force."

"Last night," the paper gushed, "some 300 Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists got a surprise visit from air force bombs that landed on their head. The sortie was perfect." And Channel 12 News headlined: "Hamas taken by surprise, 400 militants killed."

It appears that the IDF and the Shin Bet focused this time on civilian and political targets and less on the military wing of Hamas. But to date, the official IDF announcements contain the names of only seven individuals who were targeted and killed in that night's raid: Hamas' deputy interior minister, Mahmoud Abu Watfa, and three members of the organization's political bureau: Issam al-Daalis, Mohammed al-Jamasi and Yasser Harb. The IDF and the Shin Bet announced that they also killed Rashid Jahjuh, the head of Hamas' general security agency, and Osama Tabash, who was the chief of military intelligence in the southern Strip and head of the organization's surveillance and targeting department. The army published their names in a somewhat celebratory press release with the word "Liquidated" stamped in red.

Other than those names, the IDF was stingy with information about the attack, making do with a general announcement to the effect that: "The IDF and the Shin Bet attacked dozens of terror targets and terrorists from the terrorist organizations across the Gaza Strip. The aim was to degrade the terrorist organizations' military and governmental capabilities and to remove a threat to the State of Israel and its citizens."

It's certainly possible that there are more dead from Hamas or other armed organizations, but it can already be asserted that there were not 300 terrorists, or any number close to that, killed. The number of men below the age of 65 who were killed in the attack stands at 125, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry. Most of them, it can be assumed, were not terrorists.

Some of the munitions hit tent camps of displaced persons. The United Nations reported at least three cases of tents being hit in Deir al-Balah and in the Mawasi area in the western part of Khan Yunis, as well as in the Tel a-Sultan section of western Rafah. "People were sleeping and they bombed the tents on their head, there are dozens of killed and wounded, most of them children," an inhabitant of the Khan Yunis tent camp is seen shouting in a video that was posted from that night.

"It was the hardest night of our life, the children were frightened and trembling, we couldn't see anything because of the horror," a resident of the Strip said in a UN video. The video shows a large crater where tents stood, and people poking through the heaps of rubble, pulling out a few tomatoes dirtied by the sand, and blankets.

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