This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 5)

@Toomanywars I read the article and I think it's disgusting that articles are being written about how committing horrific war crimes is affecting the perpetrators as opposed to the victims.

Apologies @Dulra didnt realise it was the same “people” you were reporting about

Have they given any explanation as to how they will "disappear" from Gaza?

Actually read the article. The entire article not just the bit you chose for sensation.

Yes I think that was what C4 news were reporting from last night

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/settler-leader-daniella-weiss-says-palestinians-will-disappear-gaza

Addressing a conference on Monday also attended by Israeli Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir and Knesset members from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, Daniella Weiss called for Palestinians living in Gaza to be relocated to other countries
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as long as this extremist are in government there won’t be peace in the area.

*““Everything squirts out,” he added.
Zaken says he can no longer eat meat, as it reminds him of the gruesome scenes he witnessed from his bulldozer in Gaza, and struggles to sleep at night, the sound of explosions ringing in his head.”

I cannot believe we’re treating these monsters like they are the victims.

“Boo hoo it’s so hard for me to murder hundreds of human beings with my bulldozer and watch their guts squirt out.”*

Then may be he should have thought about that before he made a CHOICE to gruesomely murder innocent civilians. Sorry I have no sympathy for people who are murderous scum and especially if they show zero remorse or regret. I hope it haunts him for the rest of his life.

No I missed it but by the sounds of what you've posted it sounds shockingly vile. How are they allowed to even say this? If anyone said this about Israelis you bet your arse you'd be called out for it and labelled antisemitic too. Sounds like they're vultures waiting for their prey to die before swooping in and taking it.
Yes they may be extremist views but we can't discount them because they do exist and problematic.

When this is over, these murderers will return to civil life. The mental health service in Israel is lacking. The consequences of this will be huge for Israelis.
I have no sympathy for them. The way you behave is a choice. They chose to carry their acts of barbarity; they will pay the price, not only them but their families too. Did they think of this before becoming monsters?

Yes, I was agreeing with you and it is a disgrace.

I was referring to how the article was written. The MSM are a disgrace.

Is a poster really suggesting we should have sympathy for murderers who have ptsd because of the gruesome way they murdered Palestinians? I hope those murderers never see a day of peace in their lives.

One of the worst things about this article is it described in detail Palestinians being bulldozed and described as pieces of meat yet the trigger warning at the start of the article originally only states that readers may find details of the suicide upsetting….dehumanisation every day of Palestinians that their horrific deaths aren’t worth of being upsetting but the suicides of their killers are…(it’s been changed after outrage on Twitter)

You have a very wise son, they were truly sick people. I know they are extremists but it is the support they are getting from the IDF and Israeli government that is so worrying. The fact that he feels so emboldened to say these words to an international reported knowing it will be playing globally, shocking

That report really affected me, I was literally shocked to the core, couldn't get to sleep last night for thinking about it. Did you notice the sneery way the young man spoke to Paraic (the reporter) when he asked where did he think the million or so Palestinians over in the smoke filled area across the border should go, the vile man replied "I'm sure England or Ireland will be happy to take them".

My 15 year old ds was watching too and said "mum do those people believe in a God? Because what do they think their God is going to say about this when they meet him?" Bloody good question son!

It's like the accounts of "I have PTSD from the murder I committed".

No, you have the beginnings of guilt. Which shows there might be some humanity in there.

If someone feels bad enough about using a bulldozer to crush people to death, they could, well, choose not to use a bulldozer to crush people to death.

People need to take personal responsibility for their actions in order to begin a journey of de-radicalisation and/or rehabilitation.

They are literally war criminals who have murdered 10s of thousands of women and children. I have no sympathy for them. They deserve to be feeling how they are feeling after what they have done.

It affects both sides in a conflict.

"The reservist spent 186 days in the enclave until he sustained injuries to his knee, followed by hearing damage in February when a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG)" conflict as fighting from hamas, and others against the idf.

““Everything squirts out,” he added.
Zaken says he can no longer eat meat, as it reminds him of the gruesome scenes he witnessed from his bulldozer in Gaza, and struggles to sleep at night, the sound of explosions ringing in his head.”

I cannot believe we’re treating these monsters like they are the victims.

“Boo hoo it’s so hard for me to murder hundreds of human beings with my bulldozer and watch their guts squirt out.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvglg9293ddo

There was also a sad report of a 22yo woman, Shiran Golan, who survived the Nova massacre that ended her life this weekend. Her family are blaming the healthcare for not even recognising she had PTSD and not giving her the mental health support she needed.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/nova-festival-survivor-takes-own-life-family-blames-state-for-ignoring-ptsd/

Yes, I posted the Haaretz report on the Preparing to Resettle Gaza Conference on another thread- the genocide of indigenous people? One.

It is really chilling. Several MKs and Cabinet Ministers were in attendance as speakers and panelists.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/21/middleeast/gaza-war-israeli-soldiers-ptsd-suicide-intl
He got out of Gaza, but Gaza did not get out of him’: Israeli soldiers returning from war struggle with trauma and suicide

I think what gets to me is the compassion gap between the compassion people can show towards Israelis and the compassion they can show towards Palestinians. It's widely accepted that the 40 babies story for example came about due to traumatised people witnessing unimaginable horrors. Yet here we have a young woman who has endured sustained trauma, a year of the unimaginable and she is given no compassion and understanding.

Like you say there are reports of Israel separating out the men and doing terrible things. I'm sure Bisan herself has heard lots of stories. When she sees a line of men separated from their families being lined up by Israeli forces can we blame her for where her mind might go? I don't know if what she said is true or not but do we know that she didn't believe it to be true, that because of the trauma, because of the things she has witnessed, the people she knows who have disappeared, the stories she has heard that this to her seemed the only logical thing. I can certainly see how that would happen.

I just feel that there is a certain double standard at play, that there is never any room for Palestinians to be mistaken yet Israel can bomb an aid convoy, kill humanitarian workers, call it a mistake and all is forgiven.

I'm getting a migraine so apologies is that is a bit rambly, I'm putting away my phone now but I hope what I'm saying makes some kind of sense.

Did anyone see C4 news report from an illegal settler camp on the border with Gaza this evening? Settlers spouting disgusting hate filled rhetoric. Describing Palestinians as the infection in a cut that needs to be cleaned out. Suggesting Ireland and the UK would be happy to take them, mass deportations, the evil is so bad you have to do something with it.
Yes these can be dismissed as extremist views but they're there with the IDF supporting them and Isreali government ministers visiting and supporting them. It's so blatant what they're planning, literally waiting in the wings to enter Gaza when the time is right and the "evil is removed". None of this is going to help Israel in any way.