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Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 14:23

Thanks for sharing a credible source.

Doesn't mention the type of weapon someone has claimed is used.

Lalaloveya · 03/12/2024 13:43

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 13:15

I doubt anyone high up in the UK, Israel or Gaza will investigate anything Damo Rants claims 🙄😂

Well they probably care about those being killed as much as you seem to so you're probably right.

The point is that no one who actually cares about Human Rights or the law of armed conflict can.

JaneJeffer · 03/12/2024 13:23

Nothing is being investigated. Journalists aren't allowed in. You seem to find that amusing for some reason.

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 13:15

Lalaloveya · 03/12/2024 12:31

Who's going to provide that? Who in Northern Gaza can carry out an investigation into this? Who is gathering the evidence you're waiting for? The point of the video is that someone should be investigating.

I doubt anyone high up in the UK, Israel or Gaza will investigate anything Damo Rants claims 🙄😂

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 13:13

Are you aware of who Damo rants is? A Cornish man who cares for his wife and basically rants on youtube off the top of his head. A rather comical spin often but worryingly people actually think he's credible 😂

I wonder if you are aware of what he shared after October 7th. He shared what he described as Hamas response and yhy they did it. It included them saying in their 10 step response that they didn't harm any civilians. (Convienently ignoring the fact they filmed themselves shooting people). Go look it up.

I cannot believe I'm actually bothering to reply to someone who views Damo Rants as a credible source. Good grief.

Lalaloveya · 03/12/2024 12:31

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 12:21

Allegedly being the apt word. A man who names his youtube "name Rants". I've forgotten his name. I ignore random youtubers. Why not wait for substantiated evidence.

Who's going to provide that? Who in Northern Gaza can carry out an investigation into this? Who is gathering the evidence you're waiting for? The point of the video is that someone should be investigating.

JaneJeffer · 03/12/2024 12:26

Why not wait for substantiated evidence.
He named his sources but yes let's wait for the journalists in Gaza to verify. What do you mean they've all been killed?

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 12:22

JaneJeffer · 03/12/2024 12:10

against military targets
What does international law say about using it against innocent children @Toomanywars?

You don't even know if its happened yet.

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 12:21

Lalaloveya · 03/12/2024 12:09

I think the problem might be that they're allegedly being used against civilians in their houses 🙄

Allegedly being the apt word. A man who names his youtube "name Rants". I've forgotten his name. I ignore random youtubers. Why not wait for substantiated evidence.

JaneJeffer · 03/12/2024 12:10

against military targets
What does international law say about using it against innocent children @Toomanywars?

Lalaloveya · 03/12/2024 12:09

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 11:58

Did he. The way he presents is very odd. Lots of assumptions with no evidence presented. Reminds me of the YouTubers with the "there might be, is it, it could be, apparently, maybe, who knows, some say, but Idont know anyway, claims. Odd.

Anyway I'd wait for a better source than him on if they are used and when. For clarity a bit of information:

"International law does not prohibit the use of thermobaric munitions, fuel-air explosive devices, or vacuum bombs against military targets.As of March 2024, all past attempts to regulate or restrict thermobaric weapons have failed.
According to some scholars, thermobaric weapons are not intrinsically indiscriminate by nature, as they are often engineered for precision targeting capabilities. This precision aspect serves to provide humanitarian advantages by potentially minimizing collateral damage and also lessens the amount of munitions needed to effectively engage with the chosen military goals".

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I think the problem might be that they're allegedly being used against civilians in their houses 🙄

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 11:58

Lalaloveya · 03/12/2024 11:21

He names them as thermobaric vacuum bombs.

Did he. The way he presents is very odd. Lots of assumptions with no evidence presented. Reminds me of the YouTubers with the "there might be, is it, it could be, apparently, maybe, who knows, some say, but Idont know anyway, claims. Odd.

Anyway I'd wait for a better source than him on if they are used and when. For clarity a bit of information:

"International law does not prohibit the use of thermobaric munitions, fuel-air explosive devices, or vacuum bombs against military targets.As of March 2024, all past attempts to regulate or restrict thermobaric weapons have failed.
According to some scholars, thermobaric weapons are not intrinsically indiscriminate by nature, as they are often engineered for precision targeting capabilities. This precision aspect serves to provide humanitarian advantages by potentially minimizing collateral damage and also lessens the amount of munitions needed to effectively engage with the chosen military goals".

Lalaloveya · 03/12/2024 11:21

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 09:57

Damo Rants?
Some weapon that evaporates bodies but isn't named by guy (who is he?) I don't usually bother with random YouTube videos but listened and its all pretty vague and even he doesn't seem to know what he's claiming. Frankly ridiculous.

He names them as thermobaric vacuum bombs.

Toomanywars · 03/12/2024 09:57

Damo Rants?
Some weapon that evaporates bodies but isn't named by guy (who is he?) I don't usually bother with random YouTube videos but listened and its all pretty vague and even he doesn't seem to know what he's claiming. Frankly ridiculous.

JaneJeffer · 02/12/2024 23:46

Horrendous

ScrollingLeaves · 01/12/2024 01:14

Haaretz

At a DemocratTV event on Saturday, Moshe Ya'alon – Israel's former IDF chief and ex-defense minister – said that "We are being dragged [by the Netanyahu government] into ethnic cleansing in northern Gaza, effectively clearing the area of Arabs.

Former army chief Moshe Ya'alon calls for civil disobedience to protest Netanyahu gov't

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https://haaretz.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3bceadb340d6af4daf1de00d&id=c4093771ac&e=4dc3839227

Daftasabroom · 29/11/2024 13:05

MissyB1 · 29/11/2024 11:33

And there we have it - the land grab we all knew would happen.

Quite.

Hamas have also made it clear that they would not release the hostages until the IDF withdrew from Gaza. While it's doubtful whether they had either the intention or the capacity to fulfill that or not is doubtful. Either way one can infer that the well-being of the hostages is not Israel's primary concern.

MissyB1 · 29/11/2024 11:33

And there we have it - the land grab we all knew would happen.

EasterIssland · 25/11/2024 20:40

ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2024 19:52

Haasretz

An Israeli strike that killed three journalists and wounded others in Lebanon on October 25 was most likely a deliberate attack on civilians and an apparent war crime, Human Rights Watch said, adding that the attack used a bomb equipped with a U.S.-produced Joint Direct Attack Munition guidance kit. There was no immediate comment from the IDF on the report. The group said the U.S. government should suspend weapons transfers to Israel because of the military's repeated "unlawful attacks on civilians, for which U.S. officials may be complicit in war crimes."

Lebanon's Health Minister Firass Abiad said that 11 other journalists have been killed and eight wounded since the October 25 strike. The journalists killed in the October 25 strike were camera operator Ghassan Najjar and broadcast technician Mohammed Rida of the Hezbollah-affiliated Al-Mayadeen, and camera operator Wissam Qassim, who worked for Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV.

What are the chances it was chance?

israel likes to say mistake. It was a mistake.

ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2024 19:52

Haasretz

An Israeli strike that killed three journalists and wounded others in Lebanon on October 25 was most likely a deliberate attack on civilians and an apparent war crime, Human Rights Watch said, adding that the attack used a bomb equipped with a U.S.-produced Joint Direct Attack Munition guidance kit. There was no immediate comment from the IDF on the report. The group said the U.S. government should suspend weapons transfers to Israel because of the military's repeated "unlawful attacks on civilians, for which U.S. officials may be complicit in war crimes."

Lebanon's Health Minister Firass Abiad said that 11 other journalists have been killed and eight wounded since the October 25 strike. The journalists killed in the October 25 strike were camera operator Ghassan Najjar and broadcast technician Mohammed Rida of the Hezbollah-affiliated Al-Mayadeen, and camera operator Wissam Qassim, who worked for Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV.

What are the chances it was chance?