This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 5)

There are no winners in war.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62jpzmreyqo

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-bombing.html
Israel Loosened Its Rules to Bomb Hamas Fighters, Killing Many More Civilians

Hopefully the UN and WHO take this as a sign they need to keep pushing forward.

Yep.

Sadly, very believable. What's harder to believe will be any claims that those people's lives weren't intentionally put in harm's way, given the hostility towards both the UN and WHO.

Targeting an international airport that could have taken out UN and WHO staff including the WHO CEO! They were in the region to check on the health and humanitarian situation in Yemen, which almost cost them their lives. Unbelievable

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/who-chief-says-he-was-at-yemen-airport-when-it-was-hit-by-israeli-air-strikes-which-killed-two-13280031

I don’t think it’s helpful to play the blame game, that’s only going to lead to everyone pointing at everyone else, and then nobody will understand what actually happened. It sounds as though they have examined some of what was within their control, and concluded what could be done better, which is more constructive than looking for the high ground.

The investigation will have been looking at what happened, what contributed to it, how to reduce the risk of it happening again. It's been carried out by the Israeli military.

The responsibility for taking a life ultimately rests with the person choosing to take that life, and with the government/leadership choosing to give the order to do so. Nothing that I've seen in the report contradicts that. The report is considering the circumstances in which innocent lives were lost, to consider what if anything could be changed to prevent this happening again. It's good practice to hold such reviews when tragedies like this occur.

It's not about blaming Israel. It's about trying to honour the memories of innocent people by ensuring others don't die in the same circumstances, if possible.

It says a lot when the IDF investigates itself and then concludes that they themselves contributed to the death of these six hostages.

Although, they aren’t blaming themselves, the quotes you posted clearly puts the responsibility on Hamas:
”"ground activities in the area, although gradual and cautious, had a circumstantial influence on the terrorists' decision to murder the six hostages".

and
”brutal murder of six hostages by Hamas"

I think the military are formally alerting their civilian leadership that military force isn’t getting the hostages released alive, but killed. It’s a significant fracture within Israeli government that we have only seen widen since Netanhyu fired his Defence Secretary, Gantz.

The more civilian leadership doesn’t listen to the military, the higher the risk of a military coup…

What is your issue with the story? The story is about a probe by the IDF into the actions of the IDF?

An investigation by the Israeli military has found that the actions of their forces on the ground likely influenced the killing of six hostages in Gaza in August by Hamas.
It also "concluded that this was a painful and tragic event, with the extremely difficult outcome of the brutal murder of six hostages by Hamas".

So the IDF hasn't said that they are completely to blame and Hamas have no responsibility, they said that their actions 'likely influenced the killings'. Do you not think that the IDF should analyse what happened so they can try and find the best way to get the hostages home safely in future?

It's true that most were returned via a deal. That is not the issue with this story. Hamas didn't HAVE TO slaughter the hostages when soldiers were close by. They chose to become they are evil murdering scum and the blame for the deaths of those 6 hostages is with them and them alone.

Rather than being defensive I think this is point?
In a statement, The Hostages and Missing Families Forum said the investigation proved once again that the return of all those captured by Hamas during its deadly 7 October 2023 attack on Israel would only be possible through a deal.

Given the number of hostages freed via a deal vs via violence in the past year and a bit I don't think anybody would refute that would they?

An investigation by the Israeli military has found that the actions of their forces on the ground likely influenced the killing of six hostages in Gaza in August by Hamas.

It said the "ground activities in the area, although gradual and cautious, had a circumstantial influence on the terrorists' decision to murder the six hostages".

In late August, the Israeli troops found the bodies in an underground shaft in the Tal al-Sultan area of Rafah. The military said they were killed just before the soldiers reached them.

The probe said that Israel's chief of the general staff "concluded that this was a painful and tragic event, with the extremely difficult outcome of the brutal murder of six hostages by Hamas".

So basically, they didn't know the hostages were close by during operations and Hamas murdered them as the soldiers got close. So blame Israel. Anyone actually blame hamas for actually slaughtering them?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly7men0z44o

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It seems that getting run over is more of a risk than a terrorist attack. How coincidental.

I have no idea what’s happening anymore, that’s the whole idea behind denying people access isn’t it? All I know is that my one of my pets got killed in a mundane way a bit earlier today and I am miffed off about it. Merry Christmas! Funny I was talking about this earlier.

It's important to be factual. Lots of horrible things have happened, being factual always helps justice in the end.

What's happening in the Kamal Adwan hospital cannot be ignored. It's so pure evil! I we have to pressure or governments more. At least flood them with emails and phone calls. This has gone way too far and it's got to stop right now!

Oh that’s alright. Here you’ve some parts of weapons for you to manufacture them so you can continue killing innocent civilians.

as it’s not the whole weapon must be ok then

58 killed since yesterday in Gaza.

Israel continuing to attack hospitals and trying to "evacuate" (aka ethnically cleanse/murder sick people) the last hospital in the north.

They are barbarians.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/12/23/gazas-kamal-adwan-hospital-director-pleads-for-help-before-its-too-late

It's just so horrible. 😢💔 It's definitely a genocide.

"Those in a position to make a stand who choose to sit back and do nothing can rot in hell"

Agreed.

Unfortunately I think they're much worse than we can even imagine. And we've seen some bad bad stuff in the last year or so.

Animals eating bodies in the streets. Dozens being killed every day and countless injured and maimed and there are no hospitals.

And no aid. So that means food, clean water, medical supplies, shelter and other things people who have lost everything need to survive.

It's genocide. Those in a position to make a stand who choose to sit back and do nothing can rot in hell.