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MissyB1 · 04/01/2025 19:08

It feels to me Israel are killing at least 50 civilians a day at the moment and really ramping up the attacks. Have they set themselves a target amount of Palestinians they want to exterminate?! 😡

ScrollingLeaves · 04/01/2025 11:21

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 04/01/2025 05:13

Heart breaking summary of the massacres the IDF has been committing over the last few weeks.

www.instagram.com/reel/DEYSfzyuXrj/

We are not the only people feeling sick at all this. Israelis too are being harmed by what they themselves are doing.

IDF: Thousands of Soldiers Stopped Serving in Combat Roles Due to Mental Distress
^Israeli army data also shows a sharp rise in the number of suicides since the start of the war

Thousands of Israeli soldiers have stopped serving in combat roles due to mental distress since October 7, 2023
(Haaretz Jan 2 2025)

Israelis and Palestinians Are Trapped in an Endless Cycle of Trauma, and May Never Heal
*Only recently have we begun to process the traumas of the previous century, and yet here we are, living from war to war again, from tragedy to tragedy.^
Haaretz (Jan 4 2025)

MissyB1 · 04/01/2025 09:11

How do we make our Politicians listen? I’ve written to my MP (both the last one and the present one) several times. My present MP is Lib Dem, he did at least send a long and sympathetic reply. But the basic tone was that our Government are not going to do anything constructive to force Israel to stop. It’s frustrating and sickening.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 04/01/2025 05:13

Heart breaking summary of the massacres the IDF has been committing over the last few weeks.

www.instagram.com/reel/DEYSfzyuXrj/

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 02/01/2025 21:38

MothToAnInferno · 31/12/2024 22:54

Imagine going to work starving, abusing and beating people all day then going home and sitting around the dinner table and looking your wife and kids in the eyes. Surely, it must eat away at your soul to know what a horrific example of a human you are? I hope they spend every night of their lives dreaming of the misery that they inflict on the world.

You’d have to view the people as human for it to affect you.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 02/01/2025 10:41

It's awful, isn't it? I'm utterly disgusted that my taxes in the uk could be used to support this disgusting behaviour. I wish Starner would back off Israel.

BelleHathor · 01/01/2025 01:59

MothToAnInferno · 31/12/2024 22:54

Imagine going to work starving, abusing and beating people all day then going home and sitting around the dinner table and looking your wife and kids in the eyes. Surely, it must eat away at your soul to know what a horrific example of a human you are? I hope they spend every night of their lives dreaming of the misery that they inflict on the world.

They would have to have a soul to care and as evidenced in the last year+ not many do......

MothToAnInferno · 31/12/2024 22:54

ScrollingLeaves · 31/12/2024 22:35

Ofer prison camp report by 972+ magazine.

Note the discrepancy between the testimonies and what the IDF says.

www.972mag.com/ofer-camp-torture-gaza-detainees/

Imagine going to work starving, abusing and beating people all day then going home and sitting around the dinner table and looking your wife and kids in the eyes. Surely, it must eat away at your soul to know what a horrific example of a human you are? I hope they spend every night of their lives dreaming of the misery that they inflict on the world.

ScrollingLeaves · 31/12/2024 22:35

Ofer prison camp report by 972+ magazine.

Note the discrepancy between the testimonies and what the IDF says.

www.972mag.com/ofer-camp-torture-gaza-detainees/

EasterIssland · 31/12/2024 18:38

https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/reports/thematic-report-attacks-hospitals-during-escalation-hostilities-gaza-7-october

Thematic Report - Attacks on hospitals during the escalation of hostilities in Gaza (7 October 2023 - 30 June 2024)

ScrollingLeaves · 31/12/2024 17:43

Dulra · 31/12/2024 15:11

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0ep0j83p7o

It is just a desperate situation now. People can't survive this much longer. Those poor babies they had no chance and what an horrific way for them to die 😥

I agree. I was just coming to post this from Haaretz about this too.

^Seven People, Including Six Infants, Die of Hypothermia in Gaza, Authorities Say
The Gaza health ministry warns that the number of people dying from hypothermia is expected to rise as the result of heavy rain and difficult living conditions in flooded encampments^

^Seven people have died of hypothermia in Gaza in the past week, including six infants aged between four days to a month*

Lalaloveya · 31/12/2024 15:53

Dulra · 31/12/2024 15:11

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0ep0j83p7o

It is just a desperate situation now. People can't survive this much longer. Those poor babies they had no chance and what an horrific way for them to die 😥

No they can't. Thousands already haven't. All part of the disgusting plan.

Dulra · 31/12/2024 15:11

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0ep0j83p7o

It is just a desperate situation now. People can't survive this much longer. Those poor babies they had no chance and what an horrific way for them to die 😥

A man in a cap holds a small package wrapped in cloth containing the body of his dead newborn

Gaza babies dying from the cold as winter temperatures drop

Twenty-day old Sila, whose home was a tent on a beach, is one of six newborns to die in recent days.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0ep0j83p7o

ScrollingLeaves · 31/12/2024 13:57

Thank you @Auvergne63

I remember 972+ magazine had an article about the Lavender AI system. https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
So with Arbel and Habsora that’s three at least.

Imagine following the orders of Artificial Mindless Zombies.

MissyB1 · 31/12/2024 12:52

Auvergne63 · 31/12/2024 09:03

It is well know that the Idf test new weapons in Gaza and have done so every time "they mow the grass".
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-india-ai-weapon-arbel-gaza-war

I wouldn’t put anything past them 😡

Auvergne63 · 31/12/2024 09:03

ScrollingLeaves · 30/12/2024 20:48

Haaretz

Israel deployed a target identification system in Gaza that was based on artificial intelligence, which may have significantly increased civilian casualties, according to a Washington Post investigation.

  • The investigation suggests that during the war "the IDF turned to an elaborate artificial intelligence tool called Habsora – or 'the Gospel' – which could quickly generate hundreds of targets." The technology, along with other AI systems, may have led "Israel's military [to significantly expand] the number of acceptable civilian casualties from historic norms," Israeli sources said.
  • The IDF said the investigation's claims were false, adding that the systems minimize civilian casualties.

It is well know that the Idf test new weapons in Gaza and have done so every time "they mow the grass".
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-india-ai-weapon-arbel-gaza-war

Israel using AI weapons system co-produced with Indian firm in war on Gaza

The Arbel weapons system is said to enhance machine guns and assault weapons so users can hit their targets more accurately and efficiently

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-india-ai-weapon-arbel-gaza-war

ScrollingLeaves · 30/12/2024 20:48

Haaretz

Israel deployed a target identification system in Gaza that was based on artificial intelligence, which may have significantly increased civilian casualties, according to a Washington Post investigation.

  • The investigation suggests that during the war "the IDF turned to an elaborate artificial intelligence tool called Habsora – or 'the Gospel' – which could quickly generate hundreds of targets." The technology, along with other AI systems, may have led "Israel's military [to significantly expand] the number of acceptable civilian casualties from historic norms," Israeli sources said.
  • The IDF said the investigation's claims were false, adding that the systems minimize civilian casualties.
ScrollingLeaves · 29/12/2024 23:14

Haaretz

Kaid Farhan al-Qadi, freed last August from Hamas captivity in a tunnel near Rafah, told his rescuers that a few weeks prior he had heard a woman speaking Hebrew in the tunnel, Israel's Channel 12 News reported, noting that Israeli forces continued to operate in the area despite the possibility that there were more hostages present nearby.

  • According to the report, al-Qadi repeated his testimony to Shin Bet investigators. Two days after his rescue, six hostages – Hersh Goldberg-Polin, Almog Sarusi, Alex Lobanov, Carmel Gat, Eden Yerushalmi and Ori Danino – were murdered a few hundred meters away from where he was rescued. The IDF did not comment on the report.

According to al-Qadi's testimony, he heard a woman say "good morning" in Hebrew, but his eyes were covered, and he couldn't tell who the woman was or who she was speaking to. However, according to the report, since Muslim women are not being held in the tunnels, there must have been other Israeli hostages being held in the Tel al-Sultan area.

The IDF did not comment on the matter.

Report: Rescued hostage says he heard Hebrew in Gaza tunnel, but IDF operations continued

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https://haaretz.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3bceadb340d6af4daf1de00d&id=61bc1038d3&e=4dc3839227

Daftasabroom · 28/12/2024 09:04

To add: the John Lyons book is both revealing and disturbing. It's written from his own point of view, western, neither Israeli, nor Palestinian, nor Jewish or Muslim. It was written well before 7/10 and the subsequent events.

He describes everyday vignettes of Israeli prejudice, the settlement and colonisation of the occupied Palestinian territories and defacto apartheid. The insidious nature of the western Jewish lobbies is frightening. The long held ambition for a Greater Israel and the piecemeal but relentless colonisation of Judah and Sumaria and the accompanying ethnic cleansing and genocide is crystal clear.

An absolute must for anyone seeking a little more than the current horrific headlines.

Daftasabroom · 27/12/2024 19:14

Not recent but I can recommend Balcony Over Jerusalem by John Lyons 2017.

Scirocco · 27/12/2024 17:13

Toomanywars · 27/12/2024 16:18

I imagine there are people in the idf who don't wish to take part. Things are rarely as simplistic as made out on MN. War is often forced on people from.both sides

Indeed there are. I've known people who were so horrified by their experience in mandatory service that they vowed never to go back (even years ago), some people are refusing to go to fight and facing punishment and even prison for it.

I recall a young soldier saying that the IDF isn't solely killing Palestinians - the actions people are taking are destroying who they are, too. There's truth in that - it can be very hard to rebuild yourself after being in a combat zone, and I expect it's much harder to do if you know you've done things in that situation which go against who you have always seen yourself as being. War destroys so much, and changes everything it touches.

Toomanywars · 27/12/2024 16:18

EasterIssland · 27/12/2024 16:06

Indeed but some can decide not to take part. Others don’t have the luxury of choosing

I imagine there are people in the idf who don't wish to take part. Things are rarely as simplistic as made out on MN. War is often forced on people from.both sides

EasterIssland · 27/12/2024 16:06

Toomanywars · 27/12/2024 15:53

There are no winners in war.

Indeed but some can decide not to take part. Others don’t have the luxury of choosing