Yazidi Woman Rescued From Gaza

Wonder if there are any more Yazidi slaves still trapped in Gaza, who didn't have the good luck of their purchaser being killed? I fervently hope the fucker suffered in death and it wasn't quick.

Hamas are monsters, and it may well be she never ended up in Gaza of her own free will, but there is not any claim in The New Arab report claiming she went to Gaza of her own free will when she was 11.

Well Hamas would say that wouldn't they.

Absolute monsters, all of them.

And another version to counter that

www.reddit.com/r/Jewish/s/qwvCe3MZS1

The Israeli public broadcaster published exclusive recordings of Fawzia Amin Sido, the Yezidi girl who was recently rescued by the Gaza Strip after being kept by A militant for years.

The Hamas spokesman claimed she consented and came to Gaza of her own free will. Like 11 year olds generally do to be a sex slave.

Another version of the story regarding the Yazidi woman, this one from the Hamas authority. I have no idea what details are true or not but thought people might be interested.

www.newarab.com/news/hamas-refutes-israeli-claim-rescuing-yazidi-woman

Disgusting. But not surprising

Oh dear.

Also regularly heard in chants by the 'peaceful' marchers.

@ForArtfulPoster London today at the 'peaceful' march for the Palestinians.

I echo that thanks scrolling.

@ScrollingLeaves yes, this terrorising of women and girls is horrifying. And thank you for pulling the earlier poster up on the use of the term 'zionist'.

Thinking of this poor woman and all the other Yazidi girls captured by Isis, or those captured by Boko Haram, it is dreadful to think this is what happened to girls and women throughout history and it hasn’t stopped.

Excellent post @RoadSidePicnic.

The Zionists have fully committed to making sure it is NEVER on the table again. There is no going back to a state pre 7th October 2023.

Please excuse me breaking in to make a point about the description ‘Zionist’ as you have used it here, which I have learnt from other posters on this board can be a common misuse of the word.

If by “Zionist” you mean an Israeli nationalist, supremecist, extremist you need to actually say Israeli ‘nationalist, supremacist, extremist’, not ‘Zionist’. Otherwise it is misleading, confusing, or offensive.

There are many ordinary Jewish Israelis who are Zionists, in that they believe Israel is their homeland - given after WW11 by Britain after the Holocaust when Jews had nowhere to go and even Britain and the US were not accepting them. These Zionist’s for whom Israel is their homeland, nevertheless do believe in a two state solution and that Palestinians have rights too.

I saw in a Haaretz (Jewish) article that saying “Khanist” instead of “Zionist” ( misused) would be a good description for the nationalist, supremacist, extremists -
People like Smotrich, Ben-Givr, Netanyahu and the Likud party who are, as you say, making sure there will never be a two state solution.

(Khan was an American Jewish head of a terrorist movement. I think Ben Givr was one of his followers.)

The two state solution is dead. It has been the most epic piece of diplomatic theatre for decades, and if anyone is seriously under the impression it was ever coming back, the events of the last few months should show what a folly that notion was.

The Zionists have fully committed to making sure it is NEVER on the table again. There is no going back to a state pre 7th October 2023.

🤣 one-sided? That’s rich

This is exactly what I mean. There is never just straight forward acceptance even of something that has been decided on by the ICJ. It's no wonder some posters feel that other posters are motivated by nothing but hatred of Israel when for whatever reasons they may have they can't even admit to themselves that yes, Israel have done and are doing some pretty awful things to Palestinians and they do have some legitimate right to feel aggrieved.

I accept whole heartedly that there are some legitimate reasons for Israelis to feel aggrieved with Palestinians, I can see why there is fear there, why there is suspicion and in some cases hate. A lot of really bad things have happened and I'm not afraid to say that. I will also agree that on both sides some of that hate is based on nothing but prejudice and religious ideology. Do I think that Israels occupation and current action is proportionate to those bad things, no. Do I think that Israels actions are going to solve anything in the long run or keep Israelis safe, also no. Just like I don't think that the actions of Hamas are going to solve anything in the long run(or even the short term), nor will they free Palestinians from occupation and apartheid. I find a lot appalling about both 'sides'. I just don't agree that everyday Palestinians should be paying this high a price for the actions of Hamas and some other extremists especially when in the end it will all be for nothing, just like I would never agree that Israelis should pay the price of the lives of 1000s of their women and children for the bad things their government and some extremists do.

@CallMeMammy in the same way Gaza and the West Bank are an Islamic theocracy who view other religions as second class citizens?

@SprigatitoYouAndIKnow well said.

Mmm, yes Jews are notoriously sneaky aren’t they?

fuck off with your racist conspiracy theories.

I think part of the problem is the number of attacks experienced by the Israelis and the aggression directed at Palestinians over settlements etc. it is inevitable that a society becomes increasingly restrictive, militarised and paranoid (with good reason) when 2 groups inflict damage on each other and don’t reign in the worst of their own people.

The reality is Israelis have been attacked time and again, the reality is that all Palestinians have suffered for the actions of the demented amongst them, the reality is that there are people on both sides that genuinely wish harm on each other. I would hope that the majority want to be able to live in peace and don’t want to live in eternal conflict.

I hope for the sake of Palestinians and Israelis that one day there is a 2 state solution that allows both peoples to live in peace. The pictures of children with limbs amputated or the babies that are hostages is just unbearable. None of them deserve this.

Really? So you accept that Israel are committing apartheid in the West Bank?

They were asked to help and they did, thats what probably matters to Fawzia. The reality is who thinks that theres going to be a yazidi slave in Gaza? They are looking for hostages, how would they know that people have been engaging in slavery there. They only knew about it because they were told and then asked to help her get free. Freeing slaves wouldn’t be a top priority because no-one is expecting this kind of thing.

I imagine the majority of Palestinians would have been bewildered if you asked them where the slaves were kept. I doubt it is a common occurrence. This was a vile man with a vile family.

@CallMeMammy perhaps you're new here but people recognise Israel's faults regularly, both here and out in the world. Most of us don't do much more than correct the endless wild misinformation & one sidedness on here (with a dash of antisemitism thrown in) - chance of a proper discussion would be a fine thing but its clear how little good faith there is so its hard to get past that.

The crime Israel is guilty of, in many poster’s eyes, is simply existing - and not as helpless victims, but as agents in charge of their own destiny.

Is that what you call occupation and apartheid, being agents in charge of your own destiny? Apartheid is a crime against humanity.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/07/19/world-court-finds-israel-responsible-apartheid

Do you think that Palestinians in the West Bank for instance might have a different slant on this than you do? I have seen marches there full of hate with people chanting 'Death to arabs', do you believe these Israelis when they say such hateful things? Do you think Palestinians believe these people when their streets are taken over with people singing and dancing and wishing for their destruction. 10s of 1000s of them harassing and taunting them, protected by the IDF. Can you imagine how that must feel? Your occupiers marching through the streets chanting about your deaths whilst 10s of 1000s of you have been killed less than 100km away by same army that roam your streets freely?

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/06/g-s1-3141/israel-jerusalem-day-nationalists

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/29/israel-jerusalem-march-death-arabs-00035862

There are 2 sides here and neither of them are white as the driven snow. To say that people are only speaking out against Israel because of unfair 'demonisation' and propaganda is to deny the Palestinians reality. I think people would be far more likely to listen to what Pro Israel posters here have to say if there was even a glimmer of recognition that Israel actually do do some pretty shitty things sometimes too.